# Have all civilizations had jokes?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 6, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156 "2005-03-06T02:15:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/1 "2005-03-06T02:15:13Z")

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Or is it a relatively new thing?

Is there a first joke?

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**Author:** ![Dignan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@Dignan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dignan)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/2 "2005-03-06T02:21:19Z")

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Aren’t there jokes in Shakespeare and in Greek tragedies? How far back would it even be possible to go? What types of jokes are you thinking of? “Guy walks into a bar …” kind of things, or pratfalls? If the latter, I’m sure people have been slipping on banana peels for about a bajillion years.

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**Author:** ![SavageNarce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@SavageNarce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SavageNarce)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/3 "2005-03-06T02:29:13Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Is there a first joke?

Well…

> [@Genesis 2: 18](#):
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> And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

😕

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**Author:** ![fishbicycle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aeb1de/32.png) [@fishbicycle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishbicycle)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/4 "2005-03-06T02:40:11Z")

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Setting: Pleistocene era. Two guys around campfire.

Gar: Hey Urg, knock knock!

Urg: Who’s there?

Gar: Og!

Urg: Og who?

Gar: Og smash!!! (hits Gar with club)

Urg: Heh heh heh… (falls down in a heap)

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/5 "2005-03-06T04:25:44Z")

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> [@Dignan](#):
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> Aren’t there jokes in Shakespeare and in Greek tragedies? How far back would it even be possible to go?

The Master speaks.  
[http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5\_244.html](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_244.html)

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/6 "2005-03-06T04:34:43Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Is there a first joke?

Civilization.

[ANCIENT JOKES](http://www.curculio.org/Ioci/)

> [@](#):
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> When Plato had defined Man as a featherless biped, and was  
> admired for it, he plucked a chicken and brought it into the  
> lecture-room and said “Here is Plato’s Man”. After that,  
> ‘broad-nailed’ was added to the definition.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/7 "2005-03-06T05:10:25Z")

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> [@fishbicycle](#):
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> Setting: Pleistocene era. Two guys around campfire.
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> Gar: Hey Urg, knock knock!
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> Urg: Who’s there?
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> Gar: Og!
> 
> Urg: Og who?
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> Gar: Og smash!!! (hits Gar with club)
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> Urg: Heh heh heh… (falls down in a heap)

Second joke: you ever heard the one about Ug, his mother-in-law, and the saber-toothed tiger? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/8 "2005-03-06T05:20:21Z")

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Come on people.

No more jokes.

This is a serious question.

🙂

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/9 "2005-03-06T05:21:03Z")

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Isn’t humor an essential part of what makes us human?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/10 "2005-03-06T05:24:31Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Isn’t humor an essential part of what makes us human?

Do jokes define humor?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/11 "2005-03-06T05:30:30Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Do jokes define humor?

Again, it depends on how you define ‘joke.’ I think a joke is any statement or action meant to be taken humorously, and I think humans have always been making jokes. I wouldn’t be surprised if the higher nonhuman primates make jokes, as a matter of fact.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-all-civilizations-had-jokes/293156/12 "2005-03-06T05:30:43Z")

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Leaning into GD territory now…

Are pratfalls jokes? Do jokes have to be intentional? I’m sure chimps laugh at one of their own slipping on a banana peel.

But yes, I would say that all human societies have had humor in some form or another.
