# Have another cup of antifreeze, honey? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 27, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773 "2013-09-27T02:19:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/1 "2013-09-27T02:19:16Z")
[Hijinks](http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Cancer-doctor-indicted-for-poisoning-coffee-of-4846629.php?cmpid=hpbn) in the Houston oncology community: \*"Dr. Ana Maria Gonzalez-Angulo, the cancer doctor accused of poisoning the coffee of a colleague, was indicted Thursday on a felony charge of aggravated assault by a Harris County Grand Jury. A breast cancer oncologist at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Gonzalez-Angulo was charged in late May with poisoning Dr. George Blumenschein, a specialist in lung and head and neck cancers at the institution. According to the initial complaint, the pair were in “a casual sexual relationship” when Gonzalez-Angulo gave Blumenschein not just one cup of poisoned coffee, but two. Sixteen hours later he was taken to an emergency center, where he was found to have central nervous system depression, cardiopulmonary complications and renal failure. He subsequently had to undergo dialysis."\* Must be the talk of M.D. Anderson. What’s puzzing - isn’t all commonly sold antifreeze now supposed to have a bittering agent added, to (among other things) prevent accidental ingestion by pets? ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/2 "2013-09-27T12:39:48Z")
Yes, but it hasn’t been terribly effective. I wouldn’t expect it to be terribly noticeable in coffee. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/3 "2013-09-27T12:45:45Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Must be the talk of M.D. Anderson. It’s a shame this casts such a fine and beneficial institution in a negative light. They are one of if not the premier cancer treatment centers and working there has some really nice perks. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/4 "2013-09-27T14:05:46Z")
[QUOTE=lieu] They are one of if not the premier cancer treatment centers and working there has some really nice perks. [/QUOTE] There will be some trouble brewing for this doc. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/5 "2013-09-27T14:11:07Z")
It’s certainly grounds for dismissal. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/6 "2013-09-27T16:15:01Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > They are one of if not the premier cancer treatment centers But now people are saying the place is chock full o’ nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/7 "2013-09-27T16:17:09Z")
Is this the first time she’s done something like this or has she bean in hot water before? ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/8 "2013-09-27T16:59:29Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > What’s puzzing - isn’t all commonly sold antifreeze now supposed to have a bittering agent added, to (among other things) prevent accidental ingestion by pets? Might have been neat ethylene glycol, and just called antifreeze. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/9 "2013-09-27T19:21:28Z")
[QUOTE=Ruken;] Might have been neat ethylene glycol, and just called antifreeze. [/QUOTE] It perked me up to hear that ethylene gylcol has been [studied](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2357763)for use in chemotherapy, so the stuff might legitimately be in a lab at the hospital. ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/10 "2013-09-27T20:10:23Z")
Don’t these people ever watch the ID channel? Antifreeze has been so overdone you’re bound to get caught. You’d think a doctor would have access to something more unique and effective. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-another-cup-of-antifreeze-honey/669773/11 "2013-09-27T20:16:31Z")
The answer is in the article. It was “a casual sexual relationship” which she did not want to over heat.