# Have Bannon & Trump missed their chance? Oscars, Nerd Prom: False Flag Still Possible?

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**Created:** [February 26, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bannon-trump-missed-their-chance-oscars-nerd-prom-false-flag-still-possible/780882 "2017-02-26T22:06:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bannon-trump-missed-their-chance-oscars-nerd-prom-false-flag-still-possible/780882/41 "2017-02-27T16:41:40Z")

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> [@Evan\_Drake](#):
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> Well, so far in life Mr. Trump and Mr. Bannon — both getting on in years — have refrained from killing _anyone_, or committing bodily harm on anyone, or ordering such to be done by their minions. Whatever their failings, blood-thirstiness doesn’t appear to be among them.

Somebody told me that Trump and Bannon may have killed a dozen prostitutes. There hasn’t been an investigation so we really don’t know. [cite](http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/)

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bannon-trump-missed-their-chance-oscars-nerd-prom-false-flag-still-possible/780882/42 "2017-02-27T16:47:47Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> But how many didn’t they catch, that the lying liberal fake MSM have failed to report?

Psychological theory would point out that the one he can’t ferret out is himself.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bannon-trump-missed-their-chance-oscars-nerd-prom-false-flag-still-possible/780882/43 "2017-02-27T17:19:42Z")

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I’d agree that it’s difficult to see how Trump could pull something like this off - at the current time, anyway.

I could easily imagine something like a “[Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Becket#Assassination)” scenario transpiring, though.

Trump is well aware that that the fanatical loyalty of his core supporters is so obsequious that it trumps even conventional morality:

> [@Trump](#):
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> “The people - my people - are so smart and you know what else they say about my people? The polls - they say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s, like, incredible!”

Trump has shown that he is more than willing to publicly demonize his perceived enemies, recklessly so given his position as PotUS. In the past few days, he has denounced the “FAKE NEWS media” - specifically singling out NY Times, NBC News, ABC, CBS and CNN - as “a great danger to our country” and “not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!”.

I do not find it a stretch to imagine one or more Trump devotees interpreting such rhetoric as an exhortation or call to action and taking matters into their own hands, particularly if he starts attaching such “enemy of the people” labels to specific individuals.

Since I’ve never seen any evidence of Trump having any conscience or moral code, I don’t think it would follow that he would necessarily be dismayed by such an outcome, if it were to occur.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bannon-trump-missed-their-chance-oscars-nerd-prom-false-flag-still-possible/780882/44 "2017-02-27T17:29:51Z")

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Here’s the [Trump Administration’s false flag operation](http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/02/mike-pence-tweeted-nicaraguan-flag-emoji-instead-of-israel.html)! Who knew Mike Pence would be the brainchild?

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bannon-trump-missed-their-chance-oscars-nerd-prom-false-flag-still-possible/780882/45 "2017-02-27T21:56:10Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> To be clear, the “theory” under discussion is that the administration would orchestrate the act as a [false flag.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag)

As the thread creator I’m not particularly interested in enforcing “staged-by-Bannon ONLY” as a limitation of the discussion.

Cuauhtémoc’s scenario–basically, that Bannon would discreetly direct law enforcement to place its resources somewhere other than in attempts to identify potential terrorists, thus making a terrorist attack more likely, with a view to benefiting from the attack–seems just as likely if not more likely than the ‘actively recruit a patsy’ scenario:

> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> Yeah, my point was, why actively organize a false flag operation when you can passively allow a _true_ flag operation to go off? Terrorists are a real thing, right? Why not let them do your dirty work for you? This strategy would be harder to prove than a false flag. Less chance of administration getting caught. Am I wrong?

I suspect that Bannon et al expected the Travel Ban to stir the pot–they deliberately made clear that it WAS intended to target Islam by carving out exceptions for Christians, for example. They made the Ban as insulting and provocative as possible.

How _dismayed_ they must have been that the reaction was peaceful marches and gatherings, world-wide, instead of what (I believe) they’d been hoping for: eruptions of violence by Muslim people. The sight of all those “Muslims are Welcome Here” and “I Fought Next to Muslims” and “#NoMuslimBan” signs\* must have curdled their shriveled souls. (Or at the very least, sent them back to the drawing board.)

- [airport protest travel ban Muslim - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=airport+protest+travel+ban+Muslim&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjTyOuyobHSAhWJs1QKHXPICJIQ_AUICigD&biw=914&bih=755&dpr=1.25)

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