# Have bomb threats ever had, you know, and actual bomb?

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**Created:** [June 12, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787 "2013-06-12T05:20:41Z")\
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It’s seems like the thing to do these days is call in a bomb threat to some institution. Everybody dutifully files out of the building until it’s been determined (how?) that there is no bomb. Has there _ever_ been a bomb? Has evacuating the premises ever saved any lives?

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**Author:** ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/2 "2013-06-12T05:28:54Z")

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Olympic Park Bomber (presumably) “warned” ahead of time.

[http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/terrorists\_spies/terrorists/eric\_rudolph/1.html](http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/terrorists_spies/terrorists/eric_rudolph/1.html)

Not sure he was actually trying to save people or not. He may have been trying to balance not killing people with having his bomb actually go off, but I don’t know. Killed two people (one by heart attack).

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/3 "2013-06-12T05:41:25Z")

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FWIW - he claims he was trying to save non government people…

> **[Eric Rudolph Atlanta Court Statement](http://www.armyofgod.com/EricRudolphAtlantaCourtStatement.html)**
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> Eric Rudolph Atlanta Court Statement re: The Centennial Park bombing.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/4 "2013-06-12T05:42:21Z")

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If a “bomb threat” has an actual bomb, it is not a bomb threat anymore. It is a bomb warning.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/5 "2013-06-12T05:44:57Z")

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ISTR that the IRA usually called the locations they were bombing.

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**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/6 "2013-06-12T06:01:07Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> ISTR that the IRA usually called the locations they were bombing.

As did the Irgun. Notably, there was a great deal of dispute between the Irgun and the British government on the timing of warnings preceding the 1946 [bombing of the King David Hotel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing#Warnings), which killed 91 people.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/7 "2013-06-12T06:04:48Z")

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[Harvey’s Resort Hotel bombing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey%27s_Resort_Hotel_bombing), Stateline, Nevada, August 1980.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/8 "2013-06-12T14:34:47Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> [Harvey’s Resort Hotel bombing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey%27s_Resort_Hotel_bombing), Stateline, Nevada, August 1980.

Wow. Just looking at that Wikipedia article and [the FBI page cited as one of its sources](http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/august/harvey_082609), what an interesting story.

The bomb was built by a millionaire ex-Nazi Luftwaffe pilot gambling addict to extort $3 million dollars from a casino. It was one of the largest, and remains the most complex, home-made bombs ever studied, containing eight triggering mechanisms, three timers, and considered impossible even for its creator to fully disarm.

What a strange story, it’s like a movie (or maybe it’s more correct to say, “movies have borrowed parts of this story.”)

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/9 "2013-06-12T15:09:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> ISTR that the IRA usually called the locations they were bombing.

Famously, [the 1996 bombing of Manchester.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing) Police received a one-hour warning, giving time to evaucate folks.

It also gave time for news organizations to get [cameras in place.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFpvfz8Ls4Y)

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/10 "2013-06-12T15:48:50Z")

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Two law enforcement people were killed in 2008 and one severely injured when investigating a bomb threat near Portland, OR. They found a box they thought was a fake, and it exploded when one was trying to open it.

> **[Bomb explodes at Woodburn bank, killing a police officer and OSP bomb...](https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2008/12/bomb_explodes_outside_bank_in.html)**
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> Woodburn's chief critically injured; investigators have begun to identify suspects

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/11 "2013-06-13T00:34:25Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> ISTR that the IRA usually called the locations they were bombing.

The IRA generally contacted local police and occasionally media, rather than the locations themselves.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/12 "2013-06-13T01:45:25Z")

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Warnings were phoned in before the [King David Hotel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing)bombing, and ignored. The [Mad Bomber](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Metesky#Profile)gave warning of his attacks. The [Weather Underground](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground#June_1970_NYC_Police_bombing)gave a 6 minute warning before one of their bombs went off at a police station.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-bomb-threats-ever-had-you-know-and-actual-bomb/660787/13 "2013-06-13T02:02:20Z")

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The student radicals who committed the [University of Wisconsin bombing in 1970](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_Hall_bombing) [called the police](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/21/AR2010092106588.html)shortly before the bomb went off, but a researcher in the building was killed anyway.

I was interested to see that one of the four bombers is still at large.
