# Have high level liberal operatives infiltrated the right-wing message machine? NSFW

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**Created:** [April 12, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813 "2009-04-12T04:04:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/41 "2009-04-12T19:42:19Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Not to mention the fact that 25% of the country don’t really use the Internet at all.

And 75% do. That’s an awful lot of people. And, as I pointed out in my thread, and **Long Time First Time** pointed out here, it was part of a classic scene in a very popular TV show. Sure the show was just on HBO, but people\* talked about it\* (the show itself, and probably that scene too) because the show would deal with things you just wouldn’t hear about elsewhere. I’m a pretty boring vanilla person and I’ve never seen an episode of _Sex In The City_ myself, but I knew that teabagging was a sexual term, probably from a combination of hearing people vaguely reference that scene, and from seeing **Pecker** in the theater.

That 2M4M is more obscure, but hilarious too. I’m so utterly delighted watching all this foolishness from the right. They fucked everything up. Now we get to scorn them AND laugh at them. That’s awesome!

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/42 "2009-04-12T19:47:19Z")

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Wiki has a list of pop culture references to [teabagging](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging). There’s not many in the list, but what is there is pretty mainstream. I think knowledge of the word goes a little beyond X-Box Live trashtalkers.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/43 "2009-04-12T19:54:15Z")

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It took me a while to realize that 2M4M didn’t mean “Two Men For Marriage.” I didn’t know the other connotation of it until reading it here.

I don’t like teabags anyway. I prefer loose leaf.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/44 "2009-04-12T20:08:14Z")

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OTOH, their organization’s acronym is cute and yummy. OM NOM NOM NOM NOM. Bigoted lolcats !

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/45 "2009-04-12T20:20:23Z")

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Probably one amongst thier number knew the connotations of the phrase, Bevis-wise, but didn’t want to admit it, for fear of drawing suspicion.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/46 "2009-04-12T20:58:56Z")

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Is there some reason these dumbfucks couldn’t have had “Tea Parties” so **Justin\_Bailey** didn’t have to limply flail around in this thread?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/47 "2009-04-12T21:46:56Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Have high level liberal operatives infiltrated the right-wing message machine in order to make them look silly?
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> Okay, I’m asking that with tongue firmly in cheek, but look at the evidence.

Uh oh, [more evidence](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/12/tea-party-insanity-burn-a_n_185991.html)! A speaker at one of the Glenn Beck “9-12 Project” events goes a bit over the top:

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> “In the early 50s our country was infiltrated by the communist party,” he says, calling the Obama administration the culmination of that infiltration. “They’re doing everything they can to brainwash our public…This thing they’re putting on our TVs,” he says, presumably referring to digital cable converters, “it’s a brainwash unit!”
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> As his speech winds down, he exhorts his listeners to get their kids “the hell out of college. They’re brainwashing 'em!”

They put brainwashing units in the converter boxes?? Holy shit! Why isn’t Fox, CNN, MSNBC and Katie Couric onto this explosive story?

Plus, near the end of the clip, a woman (off camera) throws in her two cents:

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> “Burn the books!” she yells from off-camera. The surprised camera man asks if she’s serious, and which books she’d burn. “The ones in college, the brainwashing books, like the evolution crap.”

Surely those must be left-wing agitators, right? Just like the “Birthers” who claim President Obama was born in Kenya. They all must be left-wingers too. No one could _really_ be that stupid, seriously.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/48 "2009-04-12T21:57:11Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Is there some reason these dumbfucks couldn’t have had “Tea Parties” so **Justin\_Bailey** didn’t have to limply flail around in this thread?

Personally, I like Andrew Sullivan’s term: [Tea Tantrums](http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/time-for-tea.html).

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**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/49 "2009-04-13T00:08:02Z")

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I remember watching John Waters’ “Pecker” on video about 10 years ago with my dad and a friend and after that we’d joke about “no teabagging” occasionally. Very few people would know what we meant. I’d say for the last 5 years or so this ceased to be the case. Not everyone knows what it means, and older more conservative people are less likely to know, but many many people do; enough, in my opinion, that it would be surprising if no one involved with the movement was aware that it had a sexual connotation.

Furthermore, I don’t see why you’d use the term teabagging at all unless it was a term you were already familiar with. It seems like an unwieldy neologism otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/50 "2009-04-13T00:15:28Z")

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> [@sjc](#):
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> Furthermore, I don’t see why you’d use the term teabagging at all unless it was a term you were already familiar with. It seems like an unwieldy neologism otherwise.

People are being repressed! Come to my website at [http://MinorityInformationLiberationFront.org](http://MinorityInformationLiberationFront.org) as soon as possible!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/51 "2009-04-13T00:16:46Z")

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I for one welcome our newfound sexual liberations. From republicans teabagging to the [Obamas and their fisting](http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neCIg0BiXbE).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/52 "2009-04-13T00:18:34Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> …They put brainwashing units in the converter boxes?? Holy shit! …

Got blueprints and specs for the di-lithium polarity reverser. Sneak into your parents house, attach it to the cable going into the box. It amplifies the brainwashing rays by ten, and reverses the polarity. So, your folks sit down to watch Glen Beck or Fox, a half hour later they call you to ask if you have any of those “Obama Is Lord!” t-shirts they can have.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/53 "2009-04-13T00:21:36Z")

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Thanks for the tip! I don’t have any “Obama is Lord!” t-shirts though. All mine say “Obama is the Messiah!” on the front and “Re-education Camps for the Right!” on the back.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/54 "2009-04-13T00:27:36Z")

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The newly created Institute for Marital Assurances that Boys Only Tie the knoT with the Opposite of Men will be pissed to hear about this.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/55 "2009-04-13T02:47:56Z")

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> [@Random Beckhead via Equipoise](#):
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> “In the early 50s our country was infiltrated by the communist party,” he says, calling the Obama administration the culmination of that infiltration.

No no no he’s got it all wrong. It was either the early 30s - the New Deal and all that - or the mid 1900s, about the time we got the Pure Food and Sherman Antitrust Acts.

Then again, I can understand the reluctance to tarnish the halo of St. Joseph of Appleton.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/56 "2009-04-13T02:57:45Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> A lot of people _use_ the Internet, but the vast majority (including your average Republican anti-gay marriage doucebag) don’t hang on it the way we do.

With the number of closeted self-loathing fags they have in the membership? You must be joking.

😉 Kind of.

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**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/57 "2009-04-13T13:49:41Z")

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This thread reminded me of George Carlin’s “rant by an anti-pornography crusader”:

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> “Our thrust is to prick holes in the stiff front erected by the smut dealers. We must keep mounting an offensive to penetrate any crack in his defenses. Let’s get on him. Let’s ram through a stiff bail law so it will be hard for him to get it up. It’ll be hard on us, but we can’t lick it by being soft!”

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/58 "2009-04-13T14:54:13Z")

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As a person of good English ancestry, I object to the hijacking of tea to connote poofta activities.

Now, who’d like a banger in the mouth?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/59 "2009-04-13T15:14:17Z")

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Not sure there really are any “sexual” connotations. My son, the Err Apparent, was quite the fan of Halo 3 online, even after he got zapped and tea-bagged by a 12-year-old girl from Petaluma. Or maybe he was jelly-rolled…

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/60 "2009-04-13T16:50:29Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Now, who’d like a banger in the mouth?

Banger? I barely knew 'er!

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