# Have high level liberal operatives infiltrated the right-wing message machine? NSFW **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 12, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813 "2009-04-12T04:04:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/61 "2009-04-13T17:22:32Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Not to mention the fact that 25% of the country don’t really use the Internet at all. > > [internetworldstats.com](http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/us.htm) Jesus, 75% of the country uses the internet? That’s _huge_. Short of watching TV or, maybe, breathing oxygen, is there anything that more than three quarters of the population does? ---
**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/62 "2009-04-13T18:55:32Z")
Bad enough that people drive big vehicles with “HUMMER” written across the front. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/63 "2009-04-13T19:00:44Z")
If my 60-year-old mother knows what it means, (and got REALLY offended when I asked her just now), then it’s definitely hit the mainstream. And my mother only uses the 'net to check her e-mail, or to check her library books. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/64 "2009-04-13T19:04:14Z")
Not sure what made me think of this, but have you heard of the Abstinence 'till Marriage movement, or ATM? They’re promoting ATM education among teenagers to prevent teen pregnancy. I have to admit, it works. [ATM Education](http://www.missthemess.com/who/index.php) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/65 "2009-04-13T19:04:38Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Jesus, 75% of the country uses the internet? That’s _huge_. Short of watching TV or, maybe, breathing oxygen, is there anything that more than three quarters of the population does? Well, there’s also the fact that (as far as I can tell), **Justin\_Bailey** ’s cite is based on the total population, but [based on the 2000 census](http://www.censusscope.org/us/chart_age.html), about 14% of the U.S. population is under the age of 10, so not likely to be online quite as much, and hopefully not on sites that discuss teabagging. [This site](http://www.ignitesocialmedia.com/internet-usage-by-age-gender-race/) has statistics about internet usage among U.S. adults, broken down into different demographics. Among people ages 18-42, internet usage is at about 90%. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/66 "2009-04-13T19:39:13Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If my 60-year-old mother knows what it means, (and got REALLY offended when I asked her just now), then it’s definitely hit the mainstream Offended because of what teabagging means, offended because she thought YOU had to ask her what it meant, offended because she was embarrassed that she knew, or offended because you even had to ask if she knew what it meant? ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/67 "2009-04-13T19:41:05Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Not sure what made me think of this, but have you heard of the Abstinence 'till Marriage movement, or ATM? They’re promoting ATM education among teenagers to prevent teen pregnancy. I have to admit, it works. > > [ATM Education](http://www.missthemess.com/who/index.php) Ok now, that is funny. I do agree that it likely prevent pregnancy though. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/68 "2009-04-13T20:14:57Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Offended because of what teabagging means, offended because she thought YOU had to ask her what it meant, offended because she was embarrassed that she knew, or offended because you even had to ask if she knew what it meant? Offended because she knows what it meant and thought I was being vulgar. No embarassment so much as, “Why must you always be so crude?” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/69 "2009-04-13T20:50:14Z")
I had to google to learn the definition of space-docking and spider-man. I found the definition of ‘spider man’ hilarious. Space-docking, not so much… Even my sweet old mum knows what teabagging is. Wasn’t it also mentioned in a South Park episode? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/70 "2009-04-13T22:10:59Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Offended because she knows what it meant and thought I was being vulgar. No embarassment so much as, “Why must you always be so crude?” 😉 Ah, got it. Ha! ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/71 "2009-04-13T22:48:53Z")
First … everyone knows what Teabagging is. Second … I was flipping through AM radio this morning, and actually heard a right-winger ranting about the very question in the OP. I think it may have even been Beck. They were discussing how the evil liberals were coming to the 9/12 parties and shouting out over-the-top stupid shit (I know! I know!). They had recording of some hip young lady yapping about burning books in the hopes that \*she \*would be the story the media could run with (I’m sure the media were in on it too!). In fairness, I think they did catch a plant. When she said “rock on man!” she kind of blew her I’m-a-fundie-nutjob cred. So I think the answer to the OP might in fact be Yes. It was still a lot of fun hearing Beck try to distance himself from The Crazy at those parties. I saw footage from one last week where person after person confirmed that Obama is not a citizen. Why bother to plant people when they’re already at that level on their own? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/72 "2009-04-13T22:54:23Z")
While no doubt there are going to be some left wingers at these shindigs (hell, it briefly crossed my mind to go to one of the silly “We Surround Them” gatherings, until I realized that I would rather not be in an FBI/Secret Service database with right-wing loonies), I believe they really want to put the meme out there so that if any of their own acts up or acts crazy or says dangerous shit they can blame it on the lefties. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/73 "2009-04-13T23:00:57Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Ah, got it. Ha! Yeah, after I posted that (but it was too late to edit), I thought I should have said it was more of a “we are not amused” attitude-only a little pissier. (She also gets annoyed because “I swear too much.”) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/74 "2009-04-14T00:38:58Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Plus, near the end of the clip, a woman (off camera) throws in her two cents. If I ever get around to writing a novel, I’m _definitely_ calling it The Brainwash Book. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/75 "2009-04-15T12:45:26Z")
As someone who doesn’t play Halo 3, what is “teabagging” in that context? -Joe, traditional teabagger ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/76 "2009-04-15T13:55:56Z")
There is a ‘crouch’ movement in Halo, designed to get you under cover. Crouching (repeatedly) over your fallen foe’s head is Halo teabagging. In City of Heroes, the teabag emote produces a cup of tea and a bag which the character dips in, gently. Very suave! ---
**Author:** ![justrob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@justrob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justrob)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/77 "2009-04-15T15:41:32Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > The same with 2M4M. First, I haven’t seen a personals section of the paper use the phrase M4M in a long time. It’s always written out “Men Seeking Men.” Because the idea of gay people having to use coded signals so as to not alert the heteros of their presence has pretty much been done away with. Secondly, that’s about the best acronym they could get out of their group’s name. Something less catchy would be less effective. I haven’t looked at the personal ads in a newspaper in quite a long time but M4M seems to have made it to Craig’s List just fine. [http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/personals.cgi?category=stp](http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/personals.cgi?category=stp) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813/78 "2009-04-15T19:38:11Z")
Sorry for the crosspost (I just posted this in my MPSIMS thread) but it’s worth repeating. Hat made of teabags + rainy day = [not a good idea](http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5461484) Scroll down for another pic of her. I learned something else interesting in that thread. > [@](#): > > Over 76% of all individual donations from Unilever employees (who makes Lipton) goes to the Dems. I just started checking out Tea Tantrum stories and I’m already having a ball, but damn, I have to go to work and won’t be home until late. I’ll be itching to get back home to continue on. Here are a couple of clips. Susan Roesgen of CNN seems out of place. You don’t confront people with the truth when they’re content on being ignorant idiots. [“Why is he a fascist?” “Because he is”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phrFtnurI6w) _laugh_ “Because Hannity told me so!” [“What does this have to do with taxes?” “blah blah blah”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0) (the title is wrong though, she’s not being roughed up) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-high-level-liberal-operatives-infiltrated-the-right-wing-message-machine-nsfw/492813.md?page=3)