# Have John Lennon's brothers ever been in the news?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 30, 2005, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844 "2005-04-30T07:22:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/1 "2005-04-30T07:22:13Z")

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Reading an article about John Lennon today in which his disappearing/reappearing father (Alfred, called Alf, sometimes Freddie) was mentioned, I remembered that his father had children by a ridiculously young girl he married after John became famous. Some googling: her name was Pauline Jones and she married him when she was 19 and he was 57 and their children were David Henry (b. 1969) and Robin Francis (b. 1973). I can’t find any info about the half-brothers other than their birth: out of curiosity, does anybody know whatever became of them?

I know that his maternal half-sisters (whom he had a slight relationship with) have given interviews and written books about him, but I was curious as to whether his half-brothers (who I don’t believe he ever met) ever attempted to cash in. (Actually, a book by them could be interesting- growing up so closely connected to a world famous gazillionaire yet at the same time not connected at all, an old reprobate of a dad and a mother who was a third his age and higher-born socially but who strangely loved him [she wouldn’t let John pay for his funeral]).

Anyway, anybody know whatever became of them?

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/2 "2005-04-30T23:13:40Z")

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According to this page, “John never met his two half-brothers (his father’s sons) who were easily young enough to be John’s sons. John apparently never knew [half-sister] Victoria either; she was reportedly adopted by a Norwegian Captain and his family.”

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/3 "2005-04-30T23:58:40Z")

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Although a poster to [this Beatles message board](http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?threadid=107939&perpage=15&pagenumber=13) says that John met his half brother David once.

The [family tree](http://www.lennon.net/familytree/familytree.html) at the official website of the Liverpool Lennons.

I don’t find a David Henry Lennon or David H. Lennon, or a Robin Lennon, listed in the England and Wales Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1984-2003.

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**Author:** ![fairness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/91b2a8/32.png) [@fairness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fairness)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/4 "2011-01-10T00:04:36Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Reading an article about John Lennon today in which his disappearing/reappearing father (Alfred, called Alf, sometimes Freddie) was mentioned, I remembered that his father had children by a ridiculously young girl he married after John became famous. Some googling: her name was Pauline Jones and she married him when she was 19 and he was 57 and their children were David Henry (b. 1969) and Robin Francis (b. 1973). I can’t find any info about the half-brothers other than their birth: out of curiosity, does anybody know whatever became of them?
> 
> I know that his maternal half-sisters (whom he had a slight relationship with) have given interviews and written books about him, but I was curious as to whether his half-brothers (who I don’t believe he ever met) ever attempted to cash in. (Actually, a book by them could be interesting- growing up so closely connected to a world famous gazillionaire yet at the same time not connected at all, an old reprobate of a dad and a mother who was a third his age and higher-born socially but who strangely loved him [she wouldn’t let John pay for his funeral]).
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> Anyway, anybody know whatever became of them?

It could be they don’t want intrusions into their life? Would you? Whatever became of YOU?

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**Author:** ![fairness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/91b2a8/32.png) [@fairness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fairness)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/5 "2011-01-10T00:06:48Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> Although a poster to [this Beatles message board](http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?threadid=107939&perpage=15&pagenumber=13) says that John met his half brother David once.
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> The [family tree](http://www.lennon.net/familytree/familytree.html) at the official website of the Liverpool Lennons.
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> I don’t find a David Henry Lennon or David H. Lennon, or a Robin Lennon, listed in the England and Wales Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1984-2003.

Well perhaps you should get your OWN life, sad git. Do you have nothing better to do???

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/6 "2011-01-10T00:11:35Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> She was reportedly adopted by a Norwegian Captain

Well he would.

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**Author:** ![fairness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/91b2a8/32.png) [@fairness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fairness)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/7 "2011-01-10T00:35:31Z")

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> [@sh1bu1](#):
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> Well he would.

Must be nice to be in such an exhaulted position to pass judgement on everyone else. I wish I was as perfect as you.

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**Author:** ![LunarPlexus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LunarPlexus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LunarPlexus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/8 "2011-01-10T00:46:44Z")

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> [@sh1bu1](#):
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> Well he would.

> [@fairness](#):
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> Must be nice to be in such an exhaulted position to pass judgement on everyone else. I wish I was as perfect as you.

Another musical question answered.

Edit:  
Q: Isn’t it good?  
A: No.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/9 "2011-01-10T00:48:46Z")

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> [@sh1bu1](#):
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> Well he would.

> [@fairness](#):
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> Must be nice to be in such an exhaulted position to pass judgement on everyone else. I wish I was as perfect as you.

I’m hoping that’s a pun. Norwegian Wood.

(And the edit above covered it.)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/10 "2011-01-10T02:29:22Z")

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Notice: this is a 5.5 year old thread.

> [@fairness](#):
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> Must be nice to be in such an exhaulted position to pass judgement on everyone else. I wish I was as perfect as you.

I would recommend it.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/11 "2011-01-10T09:14:08Z")

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This episode of Newbies Reviving Ancient Threads and Promptly Crapping All Over Them was brought to you by Google.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-john-lennons-brothers-ever-been-in-the-news/301844/12 "2011-01-10T18:17:26Z")

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> [@fairness](#):
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> It could be they don’t want intrusions into their life? Would you? Whatever became of YOU?

> [@fairness](#):
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> Well perhaps you should get your OWN life, sad git. Do you have nothing better to do???

> [@fairness](#):
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> Must be nice to be in such an exhaulted position to pass judgement on everyone else. I wish I was as perfect as you.

[Moderator Warning]

**fairness,** insults are not permitted in this forum, or in other forums outside the BBQ Pit. I should also point out to you that the remarks you are objecting to were made five years ago. While we often allow newbies some slack, since you seem to have joined just to pointlessly attack people I am making this an official warning.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator
