# Have people who have helper monkeys really died under mysterious circumstances?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 26, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282 "2009-07-26T02:28:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![ChrisBooth12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@ChrisBooth12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisBooth12)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/1 "2009-07-26T02:28:17Z")

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Any truth to this?

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/2 "2009-07-26T02:46:39Z")

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Every possible group in history have had some people who died under mysterious circumstances.

Could you be a little more specific?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/3 "2009-07-26T03:53:55Z")

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The fact that the Google ad is for vasectomy reversal speaks volumes.

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**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/4 "2009-07-26T04:50:02Z")

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I would think that people who need helper monkeys are walking on thin ice to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/5 "2009-07-26T04:51:41Z")

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No, it’s a real problem. They even made a [documentary](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095652/) about.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/6 "2009-07-26T05:13:17Z")

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Those damn, dirty apes!

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/7 "2009-07-26T05:45:27Z")

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> [@Amp](#):
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> No, it’s a real problem. They even made a [documentary](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095652/) about.

That documentary was based on the real-life case of my friend’s uncle. Pity. What it didn’t show was what happened to the monkey’s family in the aftermath.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/8 "2009-07-26T06:00:19Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Those damn, dirty apes!

Apes and monkeys are not interchangeable! Damnit!! Both are subsets of primates. Humans are a subset of apes. But humans are smarter than other apes!!!

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/9 "2009-07-26T06:19:55Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Apes and monkeys are not interchangeable! Damnit!! Both are subsets of primates. Humans are a subset of apes. But humans are smarter than other apes!!!

Having achieved so much more than them- The Wheel, New York, Wars, and so on. 😉

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/10 "2009-07-26T06:21:11Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Apes and monkeys are not interchangeable!

Sigh. I know monkeys are not apes, and I figured someone would get their knickers in a twist over that. 🆒 But sometimes you have to forego complete accuracy in order to shoehorn in a good movie quote.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/11 "2009-07-26T18:05:02Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Having achieved so much more than them- The Wheel, New York, Wars, and so on. 😉

Chimps make wars in small groups. Interesting, no?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/12 "2009-07-26T18:08:59Z")

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“Helper Monkeys?”

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/13 "2009-07-26T19:35:55Z")

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OK, I’ll do it:

> **[a monkey that i wish for.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=37864)**
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> i wish i had amomnkey that dances to perat opera music and is a butler and wears a suti. he’ d be my monek ybutler suit dancer. –tim

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/14 "2009-07-26T19:48:36Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> OK, I’ll do it:
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> [a monkey that i wish for. - In My Humble Opinion - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=37864)

Having seen this quoted for the umpteenth time, I gotta ask… where was Homer going with this?

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/15 "2009-07-26T23:24:46Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Apes and monkeys are not interchangeable! Damnit!! Both are subsets of primates. Humans are a subset of apes. But humans are smarter than other apes!!!

Most humans, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/16 "2009-07-27T00:51:08Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Chimps make wars in small groups. Interesting, no?

Not a Hitch-Hiker’s Guide fan, then?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/17 "2009-07-27T01:41:57Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> “Helper Monkeys?”

O.K., I’ll do it.

Band name!

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/18 "2009-07-27T06:25:00Z")

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I hope this doesn’t count as witnessing, but I would like to urge you all to pray for Mojo.

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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/19 "2009-07-27T06:38:46Z")

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Alternatively, you could pray for Mojo Jojo.

I tell ya, anybody who died with him as their helper monkey wouldn’t have any mystery about the circumstances.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-people-who-have-helper-monkeys-really-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/504282/20 "2009-07-27T17:59:53Z")

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> [@ChrisBooth12](#):
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> Any truth to this?

Ummm why “mysterious” circumstances ?

I mean it wouldn’t surprise me if some owners of helper monkeys have on occasion been attacked and even killed by their monkeys. They are after wild animals, not pets.

But what mysterious about that ? Owner found bled to death covered in monkey bites, blood covered monkey found nearby. Not exactly the hardest murder to solve.

On the other hand if the monkey manages to cover up his crime, maybe has an airtight alibi, or hires a professional hit man to do the deed, then yeah I’d be a bit surprised.

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