# Have Roy Moore's controversies cost him any support among men **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 17, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-roy-moores-controversies-cost-him-any-support-among-men/801826 "2017-11-17T00:54:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-roy-moores-controversies-cost-him-any-support-among-men/801826/1 "2017-11-17T00:54:06Z")
> **[Roy Moore's Democratic Challenger Surges Ahead in New Poll — Thanks to Women](https://time.com/5028546/roy-moore-challenger-doug-jones-leads-poll-thanks-women/)** > > Doug Jones leads Moore by 8 points in the Fox News poll > [@](#): > > Moore trails Democrat Doug Jones by 8 points among likely voters in the upcoming Dec. 12 Alabama special election, according to the poll, with 50% saying they would vote for Jones and 42% saying they would vote for Moore. > > Moore appears to have lost a significant amount of support from women voters. In the Fox News poll, Jones led Moore among likely women voters 58% to 32%. Among all registered voters in the poll, women had a similar split, going 56% for Jones to 32% for Moore. > > These numbers represent a stark change from an Oct. 17 Fox News poll, which was conducted before the Washington Post reported that four women accused Moore of pursuing them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s. In the October poll, the two candidates were tied at 42% and registered women voters were largely split on the candidates as well: 43% said they would vote for Jones at the time, while 41% favored Moore. So Moore’s support among women has dropped from 41% down to 32%. Support for Jones has gone from 43% to 58% among women. I suppose it is good about 1/4 of female GOP voters have left Moore. But has his behavior affected his standing among men? I read somewhere it is about the same as it was before all this happened. If women make up a little over half of voters, and there has been a net 24 point move away from Moore and towards Jones, doesn’t that explain pretty much all the change in the polls? A 24 point net gain among half the electorate would work out to a 12 point net change among the total electorate. Basically, are men affected by Moores behavior? Is it causing men to abandon Moore, and for undecideds to become Jones supporters? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-roy-moores-controversies-cost-him-any-support-among-men/801826/2 "2017-11-17T01:57:03Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Basically, are men affected by Moores behavior? Sure; many men who didn’t know or care about him before now despise him. However, what matters for this election isn’t men _in general,_ but the men who would be inclined to vote for Moore if this scandal never broke. And I see no reason to think that many of the men who would vote for him at all would care. And that’s leaving out [the people who are more inclined to support him because he preyed upon young girls](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/roy-moore-sexual-misconduct-claims-child-evangelical-christians-alabama-vote-republican-senate-girl-a8052271.html). ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-roy-moores-controversies-cost-him-any-support-among-men/801826/3 "2017-11-17T02:04:22Z")
Doing a superficial calculation of the math, it seems like most of the polling changes that took it from a toss up race to a Jones winning race pretty much all came from women leaving Moore and joining Jones. So I don’t know if there has been any kind of reassignment among men. Are undecided men joining Jones, or are male Moore supporters abandoning Moore to become non-voters or Jones voters the way women are? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-roy-moores-controversies-cost-him-any-support-among-men/801826/4 "2017-11-17T16:28:57Z")
Moore is actually doing better among men since this scandal broke. According to the Washington post, Jones went from +3 to +23 among women due to the scandal. Men went from +2 to +9 for Moore after the scandal. Being a white American male is embarrassing sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-roy-moores-controversies-cost-him-any-support-among-men/801826/5 "2017-11-17T16:31:45Z")
I notice that everyone who objects to “he-said, she-said” journalism really seems to be perfectly fine with the “he-said” part of it.