# ''Have scientists been wrong for 400 years?'' This junkmail will tell you. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 18, 2007, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134 "2007-10-18T03:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/1 "2007-10-18T03:11:55Z")
Imagine my surprise when I was checking my mail today and there was a brochure from the Geocentric Bible Foundation. I got an offer for free copies of the Geoncentric Bible 6 and A Geocentricity Primer. I opened the brochure to read: > [@](#): > > Now in this FREE book, you can learn what scientists haven’t been telling for four centuries: > [ul] > [li]That written evidence and ancient witnesses around the world record a time when an usually long span of daylight or night occurred. But _scientists cannont explain why this event did not cause massive earthquakes or coastal flooding._ [/li][li]Why heliocentric scientists have been forced to develop their own geocentric models, such as those of Lense and Thirring and Barbour and Bertotti, in the names of Mach’s Principle and Relativity. An experiment underway right now is looking for the Lense-Thirring effect, an effect predicted by a Relativity-based geocentric model.[/li][li]That \*all phenomena \* - including the stationary satellite thousands of miles above the earth - are better explained by geocentricity.[/li][/ul] You can explore their highly convincing and professional website [here](http://www.geocentricity.com/). I keep thinking that it would have to be a parody, but it doesn’t seem like it is. And I also keep trying to think of what crazy mailing list I must be on to have received their brochure. Thought the teeming millions would like to hear about this fascinating (and mind-blowing) group. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/2 "2007-10-18T04:09:35Z")
Trying to reconcile science with the bible, is like trying to reconcile human anatomy with the game Operation™. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/3 "2007-10-18T07:21:33Z")
I’m going to post a link on a creationist message board I sometimes visit - see what they make of it… ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/4 "2007-10-18T07:26:36Z")
If there was such thing as an inexpensive space probe, I’d like to see NASA hand over control of it to these guys and tell them to get it to Jupiter, based only on their model of the universe (no fudges). Crashed it, eh? OK, now shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/5 "2007-10-18T08:01:33Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Lowry] You can explore their highly convincing and professional website [here](http://www.geocentricity.com/). [/QUOTE] This site best experienced with Netscape Navigator 2.0 in 800x600 resolution. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/6 "2007-10-18T08:41:17Z")
[QUOTE=neutron star] This site best experienced with Netscape Navigator 2.0 in 800x600 resolution. [/QUOTE] That site is best experienced with a blood alcohol level of .25 or higher. ---
**Author:** ![freckafree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freckafree/32/3050_2.png) [@freckafree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freckafree)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/7 "2007-10-18T12:24:04Z")
I was very disappointed to discover I could not purchase a [metal nose](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980717a.html) in the Tycho Brahe Geocentricity Shop. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/8 "2007-10-18T12:32:11Z")
[QUOTE=Ale] That site is best experienced with a blood alcohol level of .25 or higher. [/QUOTE] … or a total suspension of rational thought. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/9 "2007-10-18T12:37:09Z")
[QUOTE=freckafree] I was very disappointed to discover I could not purchase a [metal nose](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980717a.html) in the Tycho Brahe Geocentricity Shop. [/QUOTE] No, but there were plenty of foil hats. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/10 "2007-10-18T12:58:36Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Lowry] I got an offer for free copies of the Geoncentric Bible 6 and A Geocentricity Primer. [/QUOTE] Oh, go for it. There’s no better price than free. Study up and share what you’ve “learned.” It should make endless SDMB fodder. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/11 "2007-10-18T13:00:30Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] Oh, go for it. There’s no better price than free. Study up and share what you’ve “learned.” It should make endless SDMB fodder. [/QUOTE] Do they also offer a complimentary membership to The Flat Earth Society? ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/12 "2007-10-18T13:07:56Z")
[QUOTE=VunderBob] Do they also offer a complimentary membership to The Flat Earth Society? [/QUOTE] “In Your Heart, You Know It’s Flat” They share meeting halls with the Veterans of the Sexual Revolution (“We Came”) and the _Telemachus Sneezed_ reading group. :fnord: ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/13 "2007-10-18T13:13:51Z")
[QUOTE=Derleth] “In Your Heart, You Know It’s Flat” [/QUOTE] Sure, but in my brain, it’s a-round, like-a this apple. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/14 "2007-10-18T13:24:32Z")
[QUOTE=cmyk] No, but there were plenty of foil hats. [/QUOTE] Don’t wear those you fool! The cosmic forces will try to ground themselves through your head to replenish the oil! That’s just typical of you sheeple. You’re being led by around by the Illuminati/Scientific establishment sworn to hide the truth about the [electric sun](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=378726&highlight=electric) and you don’t even care. ---
**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/15 "2007-10-18T13:32:43Z")
I still don’t get it. I never could, really, but the more crackpot theories I see crop up, the more frustrated I get with those idiots that can’t make the most obvious and logical conclusion, which is the simple and inescapable fact that the universe revolves around _me_. How is this not plainly visible to anyone with a functioning set of eyes? I mean, when I stop, everything else continues to move around me. When I move to a new location, the universe then revolves around _that_ spot. Great Og, man, it must be the most obvious thing in the world and yet they _insist_ on maintaining their own nutjob theories in spite of massive piles of evidence to the contrary! Honestly, some people need serious help. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/16 "2007-10-18T13:34:52Z")
[QUOTE=Grey] You’re being led by around by the Illuminati/Scientific establishment sworn to hide the truth about the [electric sun](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=378726&highlight=electric) and you don’t even care. [/QUOTE] Oh dear lord. The Sun – it keeps going, and going, and going… ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/17 "2007-10-18T13:36:06Z")
[QUOTE=Mindfield] I still don’t get it. I never could, really, but the more crackpot theories I see crop up, the more frustrated I get with those idiots that can’t make the most obvious and logical conclusion, which is the simple and inescapable fact that the universe revolves around _me_. [/QUOTE] Must be nice being a soprano. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/18 "2007-10-18T13:42:10Z")
I think the earth is held steady in its orbit by the by the gyroscope-like effect of Galileo and Copernicus spinning in their graves. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/19 "2007-10-18T13:45:34Z")
Geocentric? Fuck that noise, it’s obvious I am the center of the universe and thus, everyone is living in a **Flandercentric Universe**. That’s got a nice ring to it. ---
**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134/20 "2007-10-18T13:58:03Z")
[QUOTE=Flander] Geocentric? Fuck that noise, it’s obvious I am the center of the universe and thus, everyone is living in a **Flandercentric Universe**. That’s got a nice ring to it. [/QUOTE] This is an illusion caused by the tidal forces generated by Florida’s sucking action. You just happen to be at the center of the vortex. 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-scientists-been-wrong-for-400-years-this-junkmail-will-tell-you/423134.md?page=2)