# Have super groups fallen out of favor or am I just out of touch? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [December 6, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184 "2023-12-06T15:33:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/21 "2023-12-06T17:28:54Z")
I was about to make some joke about JPJ being dead, but apparently, he’s still alive. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/22 "2023-12-06T17:28:55Z")
> Have super groups fallen out of favor or am I just out of touch? Yes. Next question. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/23 "2023-12-06T17:30:03Z")
What about Silk Sonic, with Anderson .Paak and Bruno Mars? Both stars in their own right, and that album is amazing. ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/24 "2023-12-06T17:31:26Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I was about to make some joke about JPJ being dead, but apparently, he’s still alive. Well, that’s the thing. The first draft of my earlier post included the comment that they should do it while they still can because Jonesey’s been around for, like, a pretty long time. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/25 "2023-12-06T18:11:02Z")
Do today’s supergroups qualify if they don’t get any airplay? Probably, but it seems to put an asterisk by their name for me. I’ve seen a couple of The Hollywood Vampires videos on YouTube but I don’t recall hearing their music on other venues. Same for Chickenfoot. But I’m probably just out of the loop. The Traveling Wilburys, were a true supergroup, imo. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/26 "2023-12-06T18:15:37Z")
Velvet Revolver got airplay, and Silk Sonic still does. By airplay, I assume you mean “played on the radio”, which is not really how young people listen to music anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/27 "2023-12-06T18:29:01Z")
Traveling Wilburys were definitely a supergroup. I have never heard of Chickenfoot, although I kmow all the people in it. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/28 "2023-12-06T18:34:10Z")
Chickenfoot seems to have many millions of streams on Spotify, with their largest song at about 10mm. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/29 "2023-12-06T18:42:23Z")
I am old and out of touch. Get off my lawn while I go spin up the Victrola. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/30 "2023-12-06T18:47:30Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Chickenfoot seems to have many millions of streams on Spotify, with their largest song at about 10mm. Yeah, that’s indeed how the kids listen these days. boygenius has more than 500 million song streams, with their top song at about 63 million streams. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/31 "2023-12-06T20:41:57Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > IMO today’s music focuses on singers, who can access any number of session musicians Yeah, my impression is that supergroups have not “fallen out of favor” except to the extent that groups, in general, have fallen out of favor. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/32 "2023-12-06T21:02:21Z")
“Hootchie-mama outfits” Come on… you sound like Grampa Simpson. Speaking of that… the 2001 “Lady Marmalade” song for _Moulin Rouge_ was a sort of girl pop supergroup, considering that it was Pink, Mya, Christina Aguilera, and Lil’ Kim, although I think it was a one song thing, not anything more long-lived. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > They were there because they were big musical stars and friends. Yeah, I’ve always had the impression that supergroups are more for fun than musical perfection or commercial success. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/33 "2023-12-06T21:15:28Z")
Per wikipedia’s Supergroup page: > **[List of musical supergroups](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_supergroups)** > > This is a list of supergroups, music groups whose members are already successful as solo artists or as part of other groups. Usually used in the context of rock bands such as Audioslave and Chickenfoot. The term has been applied to other musical genres such as The Three Tenors in Opera, as well as in R&B/Pop with such popular acts like Bell Biv DeVoe (BBD), LSG & TGT. The term is applied in Hip Hop to collaborations such as The Firm, Westside Connection, Method Man & Redman, Kids See Ghosts, Th... More recent groups formed are: Elegant Weapons - a collaboration of former Judas Priest, Pantera, and Rainbow band members. El7z Up - a Girl K-Pop collaboration ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/34 "2023-12-06T21:17:59Z")
> [@bump](#): > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > They were there because they were big musical stars and friends. > > Yeah, I’ve always had the impression that supergroups are more for fun than musical perfection or commercial success. Maybe in general, but I doubt that Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce were feeling the warm fuzzies of a fun friendship. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/35 "2023-12-06T21:34:13Z")
This group is still touring after 30+ years, the supergroup has lasted longer than all of the bands the individuals have come from > **[Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringo_Starr_%26_His_All-Starr_Band)** > > Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band is a live rock supergroup founded in 1989 with shifting personnel, led by former Beatles drummer and vocalist Ringo Starr. > Since 1989, Starr has toured with fourteen variations of the band, where "everybody on stage is a star in their own right". Ringo Starr and his All-Starr Band is a concept that was created by producer David Fishof. > The band has consistently toured for over three decades, and rotates its line-up depending on availability of musicians and a... ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/36 "2023-12-06T21:44:48Z")
IMHO, they’re not a particularly good example of what I think of as a supergroup. They tick some of the boxes, but not others. When I think of a supergroup, I think of a group that… - Has a name of its own (not just named after one of the members) - Has released at least one album under that name - A significant portion of their output is original material (they’re not just a cover band) - Has a specific set of members, which may change a little over the group’s lifetime (e.g. the death of Roy Orbison in The Travelimg Wilburys) but is not just a revolving door membership ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/37 "2023-12-06T21:48:16Z")
The New Pornographers have put out about a dozen albums as a Canadian indie supergroup. I thought they qualified as recent but they actually started in 1999. Their last album came out this year, though. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/38 "2023-12-06T21:57:30Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The Traveling Wilburys had Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, George Harrison, and Jeff Lynne. None slouches as musicians, but they weren’t in the group because of their guitar chops. They were there because they were big musical stars and friends. Sadly, they just lost too many members. After Petty passed, someone was asked if the group would continue and the answer was “never say never”. but it’s gonna be tough. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/39 "2023-12-06T21:58:56Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I feel like songs these days are “X artist featuring Y artist.” So not a supergroup, but there are a _lot_ of collaborations between major artists. And “Y” more often than not is “Coldplay”. Given that most of the super group references are several decades old (including Lady Marmalade), I would say that super groups have fallen out of favor, as has the sort of guitar and drums-driven rock music that these groups typically played. I kind of feel like even with current rock band, people tend to know the band or its songs, not individual musicians. I don’t imagine people getting excited for a supergroup made up of Chris Martin from Coldplay, the guy from Imagine Dragons, the drummer from twenty one pilots (assuming they use drums) and some other guy from some other band that sounds like Imagine Dragons (maybe OneRepublic). Pop singers get featured on each other’s music all the time. But a supergroup containing Ariana Grande, Charlie XCX, Dua Lipa, and Ice Spice might be confused with the new seasonal specials menu at your local Starbucks. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184/40 "2023-12-06T22:49:02Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > But a supergroup containing Ariana Grande, Charlie XCX, Dua Lipa, and Ice Spice might be confused with the new seasonal specials menu at your local Starbucks. They can always redo “Lady Marmalade”. I’d listen. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-super-groups-fallen-out-of-favor-or-am-i-just-out-of-touch/994184.md?page=3)