# Have the recent scandals screwed the Dems for the mid terms? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 16, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517 "2013-05-16T16:04:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/121 "2013-05-20T18:25:57Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > As for Franken’s “anti-rape” amendment it was actually an anti-arbitration amendment and it gave Democrats and President Obama heartburn, although it eventually passed and was signed. The only difference between Democrats and Republicans on the issue was that Democrats didn’t have the balls to vote against it, even though they wanted to. How did it give Democrats and President Obama heartburn? How can anyone possibly justify voting in favor of letting defense contractors protect rapists via “arbitration”? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/122 "2013-05-20T18:42:31Z")
Because a lot of defense contractors use arbitration, and by design most Senators represent major defense contractors. The arbitration issue wasn’t the biggest outrage, it was the rape, and franken’s bill wouldn’t have reduced rape so much as give lawyers a new opportunity to make some cash. So calling it an anti-rape bill was manipulative and dishonest. But it was brilliant politics, because it not only did Republicans get hurt by the debate, they also failed to stop it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/123 "2013-05-20T19:11:15Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > What part of the platform do you think needs to be changed? I don’t think there’s anything in the platform that turns any particular group off. I found plenty, using [this](http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=101961) as my source. > [@](#): > > Extend the 2001 and 2003 tax relief packages—commonly known as the Bush tax cuts—pending reform of the tax code, to keep tax rates from rising on income, interest, dividends, and capital gains; > > Reform the tax code by reducing marginal tax rates by 20 percent across-the-board in a revenue-neutral manner; > > Eliminate the taxes on interest, dividends, and capital gains altogether for lower and middle-income taxpayers; > > End the Death Tax; I think those who are concerned about the deficit would be opposed to making permanent the major cause of the deficit. Those who support fairness would oppose elimination of the Estate Tax. > [@](#): > > American businesses now face the world’s highest corporate tax rate Whine whine whine. What they don’t say is how many corporations don’t pay a dime in taxes, despite the rates. > [@](#): > > Determined to crush the double-digit inflation that was part of the Carter Administration’s economic legacy, President Reagan, shortly after his inauguration, established a commission to consider the feasibility of a metallic basis for U.S. currency. The commission advised against such a move. Now, three decades later, as we face the task of cleaning up the wreckage of the current Administration’s policies, we propose a similar commission to investigate possible ways to set a fixed value for the dollar If you’re a gold bug, music to your ears. If you realize the hazards of the gold standard, not so much. > [@](#): > > Ultimately, we support the enactment of a National Right-to-Work law to promote worker freedom and to promote greater economic liberty. Union members would beg to differ. > [@](#): > > We reaffirm our support for a Constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman. We want to be on the wrong side of history. > [@](#): > > We recognize that having a physical verification of the vote is the best way to ensure a fair election. " We want to put barriers in place to discourage Democratic voters. > [@](#): > > We oppose legislation that is intended to restrict our Second Amendment rights by limiting the capacity of clips or magazines or otherwise restoring the illconsidered Clinton gun ban. We want our mass murderers to be the best-equipped mass murderers in the world. > [@](#): > > we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We want compulsory pregnancies. > [@](#): > > By whatever legislative method is most feasible, Old Glory should be given legal protection against desecration. A piece of cloth is more important than free speech. > [@](#): > > The first step is to move the two programs away from their current unsustainable defined-benefit entitlement model to a fiscally sound definedcontribution model Ta ta to Medicare. > [@](#): > > Professing American exceptionalism—the conviction that our country holds a unique place and role in human history—we proudly associate ourselves with those Americans of all political stripes who, more than three decades ago in a world as dangerous as today’s, came together to advance the cause of freedom. Repudiating the folly of an amateur foreign policy and defying a worldwide Marxist advance, they announced their strategy in the timeless slogan we repeat today: peace through strength We believe in the form of racism known as American exceptionalism. There of course is much much more in this despicable platform for any thinking person to be offended by. ---
**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/124 "2013-05-20T19:16:19Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There’s no rape plank, that goes back to the rhetoric I was talking about. Some Republicans stepped in it, Democrats capitalized, and it hurt us with women. I assume by “stepped in it” you’re referring to Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock’s now-infamous statements, which the Democrats capitalized on. If this was all there was to the perception of the GOP being anti-woman, I might be sympathetic, but the record shows otherwise. For the past 30 years, the GOP line on social ills has revolved around the breakdown of the American family–specifically, that women needed to reject feminism in order to assume their role in the family as a civilizing influence on husbands and sons (ever heard of [George Gilder](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gilder)?). More recently, the GOP House acted to de-fund Planned Parenthood in 2010, and while Mississippi placed a personhood proposition on the state ballot in 2011, 63 House GOP members sponsored the [Sanctity of Human Life Act](http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.212:). Whether or not one agrees with the aim of these measures, they are clearly an attempt to deny women specifically rights that were guaranteed under Roe v. Wade. Just this weekend, the GOP nominated VA state senator Mark Obenshain for state AG, a man who proposed [the following state bill in 2009](http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?091+sum+SB962), which would essentially force women to report miscarriages or face a criminal penalty: > [@](#): > > Fetal deaths; report when unattended; penalty. Requires that when a fetal death occurs without medical attendance upon the mother at or after the delivery or abortion, the mother or someone acting on her behalf, within 24 hours, report the fetal death, location of the remains, and identity of the mother to the local or state police or sheriff’s department of the city or county where the fetal death occurred. The bill also specifies that no one shall remove, destroy, or otherwise dispose of any remains without the express authorization of law-enforcement officials or the medical examiner, and that a violation of this section is a Class 1 misdemeanor. It seems you want to believe that the characterization of the GOP as anti-woman comes wholly from a few “bad apples” with wacky ideas and the rhetoric of Democrats who unfairly demagogue them. It seems more likely that there is a quiet assumption about the role of women that is dominant in the GOP–one that many of them might not even recognize as anti-woman–that occasionally flares into view when one of them forgets the political consequences of following their assumptions to a logical conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/125 "2013-05-20T23:50:16Z")
But…but…but… Those fucking whores of Babylon should face consequences for their sluttish choices. After all, they might have misled good Christian men\* into straying from the purity of their marriages. Fortunately, those men are generally married to good Christian women who are too obedient to God’s holy will to leave their husband. - Who, being only human (and men) should be forgiven their transgressions and reelected - lest the godless heathen Democrats take over and…something bad. Really, REALLY bad! ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/126 "2013-05-21T00:56:39Z")
Whoaahhhh Nelly!!! Republicans want their butts stomped in Virginia Governor race. Here’s their candidate for Lt Governor alongside Cuccinnelli who is quite right wing extreme his self. Jackson on gays and lesbians: Referred to gays and lesbians as “perverted,” “degenerate,” “spiritually darkened” and “frankly very sick people psychologically, mentally and emotionally.” Said regarding homosexuality: “it poisons culture, it destroys families, it destroys societies; it brings the judgment of God unlike very few things that we can think of.” Argued that gays seek to “sexualize [children] at the earliest possible age” and use “totalitarian” tactics. Claimed gays are hurting black women: “I’ve heard a lot of young black ladies that a lot of young black men seem to be gay. I’ve heard them complain about it, they say ‘so many of these guys are homosexuals’ and they are frankly frustrated by it.” Demanded the reinstitution of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell : “The military has been decimated by this lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender policy that has now been implemented. It’s an abomination and it’s only going to weaken us militarily and they need to undo it,” warning that the policy’s repeal is a “disaster of historic proportions.” Contended that homosexuality is “killing black men by the thousands” and said of gay rights advocates: “what they’re promoting is killing people.” Called GLSEN founder and anti-bullying activist Kevin Jennings a “radical homosexual activist” who should have been “imprisoned” in a letter demanding he resign as head of the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools. Said there is a “direct connection” between gays and pedophilia. Jackson on Obama and Democrats: Wondered how the Democratic Party “managed to hold on to black Christians in spite of an agenda worthy of the Antichrist.” Proclaimed that “the Democrat Party has shown itself to be anti-Christian, anti-Bible, anti-family, anti-life and anti-God… We’re calling people to come out of the Democrat Party and not support candidates who represent its values and the rebellion that it represents against God. That certainly would include President Barack Obama.” Claimed that Democratic Party supporters are “insulting their faith and blaspheming their God” by supporting a “coalition of the godless.” Warned that ministers who support Obama “are going to have to answer to God” if they encourage “their congregations to support this abomination.” Said Democrats believe “that the Bible is a lie and indeed they are saying that God is a liar.” Argued that “liberalism and their ideas have done more to kill black folks whom they claim so much to love than the Ku Klux Klan, lynching and slavery and Jim Crow ever did, now that’s a fact.” Maintained that Obama “seems to have a lot of sympathy for even radical Islam” and argued that Obama “certainly does have a lot of affection and favor for Islam, that seems to be his priority…Christianity, I don’t really think about that with him, I really don’t, that’s a joke.” Compared Democratic leaders to “slave masters” who make sure that black people who disagree with them are “punished.” Insisted that Planned Parenthood “has been far more lethal to Black lives than the KKK ever was.” Predicted that African Americans will “overwhelmingly” vote against Obama as a result of his endorsement of marriage equality and a move of God to “stir the hearts of His people” and push them against the Democrats. > **[VA GOP Lt. Governor Nominee E.W. Jackson: Homosexuality Is 'Poison,'...](https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/va-gop-lt-governor-nominee-e-w-jackson-homosexuality-is-poison-democrats-are-slave-masters-obama-is-a-secret-muslim/)** > > With the ultraconservative Ken Cuccinelli as their candidate for governor, it only makes sense that Virginia Republican delegates picked far-right pastor ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/127 "2013-05-21T01:24:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The abortion plank doesn’t cause Republicans to lose women, women are just as likely to be pro-life as men. This isn’t true. The GOP’s position is far to the right of a majority of women as they believe in right to life legislation. Women are overwhelmingly for contraception including the pill, and the GOP is against it. It’s not just a few Republicans makes stupid rape comments it’s all of them pushing legislation women aren’t OK with. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/128 "2013-05-21T01:47:33Z")
Leaving aside this silly attempt to rewrite history regarding when African-Americans completely abandoned the Republican Party, to answer the OP, since polls show the scandals have done nothing to hurt Obama, there’s no reason to think it will hurt the Democrats in the mid-term elections. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/129 "2013-05-21T02:13:52Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Leaving aside this silly attempt to rewrite history regarding when African-Americans completely abandoned the Republican Party, to answer the OP, since polls show the scandals have done nothing to hurt Obama, there’s no reason to think it will hurt the Democrats in the mid-term elections. Not sure that’s actually true. While it hasn’t hurt Obama directly, things like this _can_ have effects on down-ticket races (mostly related to turnout numbers that tend to get diluted in national contests). You can’t automatically translate Obama’s approval numbers to Senate and House races (good or ill). Further, the impact of continued GOP gerrymandering has not yet fully been felt. We’ll see but this will be a tough election for the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/130 "2013-05-21T15:30:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Because a lot of defense contractors use arbitration, and by design most Senators represent major defense contractors. The arbitration issue wasn’t the biggest outrage, it was the rape, and franken’s bill wouldn’t have reduced rape so much as give lawyers a new opportunity to make some cash. So calling it an anti-rape bill was manipulative and dishonest. But it was brilliant politics, because it not only did Republicans get hurt by the debate, they also failed to stop it. So senators opposed it because of their conflict of interest, therefore you opposed it? Speaking of manipulative and dishonest, how about forcing rape victims through arbitration instead of being able to take their attackers to court because you think some lawyers might make money? ---
**Author:** ![6079smithW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/db5fbb/32.png) [@6079smithW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6079smithW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/131 "2013-05-21T17:12:50Z")
In the 1998 Congressional elections, there was a Democratic President (Clinton), but the Democrats gained five seats. Major reason: people were sick of Monica-gate and impeachment. People would generally prefer if the folks in Congress would just do their jobs. When W was President, nobody wanted to hear about Alberto Gonzalez firing any prosecutor who wouldn’t bring a politically-based prosecution for voter fraud, or criticize W’s preposterous failures in Iraq and Afghanistan, or cry about the feds secretly reading a reporter’s emails. But now, sure, Republicans “really care” about the IRS, Benghazi consulate attacks, and press freedom? Scandal-mongering is a dead-end for the Republicans, as demonstrated by recent history, and these “scandals” are clearly just targets of opportunity for Republicans, who would otherwise be on the complete opposite side of these very same issues, as also demonstrated by recent history. It’s not just LIKE they think we’re stupid. ---
**Author:** ![6079smithW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/db5fbb/32.png) [@6079smithW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6079smithW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/132 "2013-05-21T17:17:54Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I know what narrative the Democrats have tried to push in order to take political advantage of race issues and revise history to make themselves look better. The fact is, Democrats haven’t changed, their constituents have. Now they just give special preferences to minorities instead of whites. And are actively hostile and racist towards minorities who dare to be conservatives. Boo hoo, “special preferences.” The narrative of White Southern Christian victimhood hasn’t changed since the “Lost Cause” years of the 19th Century. “They’re comin’ down here with their miscegenation, integration, equal rights, socialized medicine, gay marriage, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, takin’ our guns, interfering with our worship, DESTROYING OUR WAY OF LIFE!!! WAR OF NORTHERN AGGRESSION!!!” Does it ever get OLD? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/133 "2013-05-21T18:10:10Z")
It’s just the same old selfserving lie - portraying the removal of one’s systemic advantages as being the \*imposition \*of systemic _dis_advantages. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/134 "2013-05-22T07:27:40Z")
And every white or Asian person who gets denied a spot in the school they wanted despite excellent test scores and grades becomes a Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/135 "2013-05-22T07:49:04Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > And every white or Asian person who gets denied a spot in the school they wanted despite excellent test scores and grades becomes a Republican. Do they get a notice in the mail telling them that? I find it hard to believe that being denied for a position in school somehow destroys a person’s ability to reason so bad that they become Republican. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/136 "2013-05-22T11:11:32Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > This sucks. Just as Benghazi was in its death throes, taking the wind out of the TP/Repubs sails, here comes these other scandals, re-energizing and uniting the Republican base. > > Will this momentum hold til the mid terms? Will these scandals tip the scales? This depends on whether the Left and the main stream journalists ever decide to stand up and fight against right wing lies and falsehoods which are now proven to be lies and falsehoods that come not from the right wing mobs but at the very top. The following was printed in the Washington Times on October 3, 2012 and it falls in with the right wing hysteria and attacks on Susan Rice’s visit to the Sunday talk show circuit. > [@](#): > > The Obama administration dissembles through its teeth while the media obediently swears it’s all true, even while the story is “evolving.” > > Some things just get too big to fib about – like “Benghazi-gate,” the attack that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three embassy guards on the anniversary of Sept. 11, 2001. > Ever since, the administration has sworn it was all just a senseless tragedy, caused by our lack of sensitivity for Muslim feelings. > > Taking the lead on the Obama administration talking points was U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice. Although she has no responsibility for embassies, guard forces or counterterrorism, Ms. Rice was all over the media saying that a Libyan mob – enraged by the now-infamous YouTube video – had run amok. Wasn’t it tragic, amidst all this gratuitous amok-ness, that we lost four brave Americans? In his U.N. speech last week, President Obama also blamed the video for inciting the mob while speaking vaguely of “tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice.” > > Sorry, Mr. President and Madam Ambassador, but flash mobs don’t suddenly materialize with crew-served weapons, nor do they coordinate their attacks with direct and indirect fire. As Fox News reported on Sept. 27, senior intelligence officials in the Obama administration knew within just 24 hours that the attack was terrorism. “No one … believed that the mortars, indirect and direct fire, and the [rocket-propelled grenades] were just the work of a mob – no one.” Even worse, Fox News also reported that FBI agents still have not arrived in Benghazi more than two weeks after the attack, the first successful al Qaeda assault on American territory since the Sept. 11 tragedy 11 years ago. > Col. Ken Allard, retired from the Army, is a former NBC News military analyst and author on national security issues. > Read more: > > [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012..../#ixzz2U19Bm9cA](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012..../#ixzz2U19Bm9cA) On another thread Adahar agrees that Susan Rice did not blame the attacks on the movie, She blamed it on Extremists. That is a judgment that Co. Ken Allard could have made immediately … no need to be entirely wrong. We do know that Allard is wrong about Susan Rice don’t we? This is why Benghazi is dead as a scandal. It is mostly made up of right wing fabrications and has nowhere to go because of it. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/137 "2013-05-22T11:26:45Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Do they get a notice in the mail telling them that? > > I find it hard to believe that being denied for a position in school somehow destroys a person’s ability to reason so bad that they become Republican. If you had higher scores than someone who did get in because of racial preferences, that will tend to make you dislike racial preferences. that’s perfectly rational. Same goes for promotions in companies. get passed over enough despite being better qualified and that will change your views as well. What, did you think whites moving steadily more and more into the GOP camp was coincidence? A statistical abberation? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/138 "2013-05-22T11:45:08Z")
Kinda depends, doesn’t it? Are Hispanics “white”? How about Asians? Jews? If you are not willing to define your terms, perhaps you shouldn’t use them? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/139 "2013-05-22T11:49:50Z")
Well, white Hispanics are white. We saw that with the Zimmerman case. Jews have been the victims of quotas for over 150 years. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517/140 "2013-05-22T11:55:34Z")
Oh, well, sure, white Hispanics are white. Nobody doubts that. White asians are white too, I suppose. Jews are _technically_ white… No, no, don’t put the shovel down, this is just getting good… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-recent-scandals-screwed-the-dems-for-the-mid-terms/658517.md?page=8)