# Have the standards of manhood today gone to the dogs? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 23, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421 "2016-12-23T02:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/201 "2016-12-23T23:39:34Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > I’ve got it, he’s Gaston!! Okay, that was funny. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/202 "2016-12-23T23:42:51Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > So point out where I said MLP makes you more likely to rape horses or whatever he was equating that with then Okay, then, it was the part where you said this: “As far as the quality of the show, I have no idea. But I can grantee you as many Bronies watch the show for the ‘quality’ as there are men who read Playboy for the fashion articles.” The confabulation with Playboy seemed (at least to him, I’m assuming) that you were implying that those who watched MLP were doing it for sexual gratification. (Whether you meant it that way or not.) (And yes, I’m noticing that I’m sitting here doing an XKCD386 over cartoon horses. I’m kinda enjoying it.) ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/203 "2016-12-23T23:43:09Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > In the OP I vaguely mentioned Bronies, then some posters got offended and were arguing basically that it’s critically considered a ‘deep’ show on par with Breaking Bad. > > Since then I’ve more or less been arguing that that’s bogus, and there aren’t any critics saying that. Yeah, that never happened. No one compared it to Breaking Bad, they used an analogy to dispute your bullshit about MLP fans being pedophiles. ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/204 "2016-12-23T23:44:32Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > Yeah, that never happened. No one compared it to Breaking Bad, they used an analogy to dispute your bullshit about MLP fans being pedophiles. Which is a dumb analogy, unless you’re willing to point out the internet subculture that has a reputation of writing erotic fanfiction about Walter White, or beating off to MS Paint drawings of Saul Goodman making love to Jessie. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/205 "2016-12-23T23:49:43Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Oh look, my stalker is back I see you also know nothing about geography. Like all the other real men (not that you would know what real men do…or even are, for that matter), I tend to sleep at night. By the way, people have always read _Playboy_ for the articles. A large part of the magazine’s success is that it has great articles, interviews, and thought-provoking cartoons, not just nude pics. For the last, think “Gahan Wilson”. The mag has even had interviews or contributions of religious figures. Some of the best SF writers have been published in this particular periodical. On the subject of kids’ shows: the good ones do something rather well–they provide humor at two levels at the same time with the same words or actions. The humor is targeted on one level to the kids, on the other level to the adults. Those shows also get people, even adults, to ponder, to contemplate important social issues. During my slumber, the other posters in this thread have done a great job of deciding your nonsense. There was no need for me to “sleeppost”. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/206 "2016-12-23T23:50:47Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Okay, that was funny. Thanks, glad I could put that image in your brain. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/207 "2016-12-23T23:51:07Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Not a mysognist at all, I just have enough standards that I wouldn’t marry a woman who talks like an uneducated gutter slut and would probably sleep with any twit who buys her a Happy Meal. (Jack doesn’t know that we’ve switched his normal brand of coffee for decaf. Lets see if he notices.) > [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Won’t even sleep with a woman like that with no strings attached either, I have self-respect. My girlfriend’s way more lady like than that. She’s cuddly and she’s bouncy She’s like a rubber ball He bounces her in the kitchen He bounces her in the hall And now his life is different Since GF came his way He wakes up in the morning And has her on a tray! She’s everything they said she was And he wears a shit-eaten grin And he only has to worry In case Jack’s hot-air wears her thin… > [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > In all honestly though, nothing more myognist today than the porn and rauch entertainment industry, which “progressive” males ironically often defend staunchly, > probably because they just like the idea of old white corporate media execs encouraging women to be as easy as possible. Gee Jack, I’m not sure if you need a soap box or a stripper pole. Q: Which will get you bus fare home so you don’t beat your girlfriend when you get there? ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/208 "2016-12-23T23:54:36Z")
I have no interest in this “manhood” thing you’re talking about. You may keep it and whatever standard you wish to use for it. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/209 "2016-12-23T23:57:02Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Which is a dumb analogy, unless you’re willing to point out the internet subculture that has a reputation of writing erotic fanfiction about Walter White, or beating off to MS Paint drawings of Saul Goodman making love to Jessie. Dumb or not, it was an analogy, that you either mistook for a comparison between the shows, or pretended was such a comparison. A claim you’re _still_ making, despite evidently being aware that it was an analogy. Is that how men debate? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/210 "2016-12-23T23:57:16Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Which is a dumb analogy, unless you’re willing to point out the internet subculture that has a reputation of writing erotic fanfiction about Walter White, or beating off to MS Paint drawings of Saul Goodman making love to Jessie. 1.) Look up “Rule 34”. 2.) Because a community “has a reputation” does not mean that reputation accurately describes a majority of that community. 3.) You could visit a MLP forum that _isn’t_ 4chan, such as [this one](http://equestriadaily.com/). Or [this thread](http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7150&hilit=hugo+award&sid=ae0ffff904d32846faf1049081dde3a8) in particular at a different site will show you what bronies are like. (No, not all of them are that intelligent and well educated, just like not all of them are cloppers.) 4.) You could read [this](http://jezebel.com/i-was-the-weirdest-person-at-bronycon-2014-1616532065) or [this](https://www.google.com/#q=%22my+little+pony%22+site:boards.straightdope.com&start=0). (ETA [google for Walter White slash fiction](https://www.google.com/#q=walter+white+slash+fiction).) ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/211 "2016-12-24T00:00:16Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > 1.) Look up “Rule 34”. > 2.) Because a community “has a reputation” does not mean that reputation accurately describes a majority of that community. > 3.) You could visit a MLP forum that _isn’t_ 4chan, such as [this one](http://equestriadaily.com/). Or [this thread](http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7150&hilit=hugo+award&sid=ae0ffff904d32846faf1049081dde3a8) in particular at a different site will show you what bronies are like. (No, not all of them are that intelligent and well educated, just like not all of them are cloppers.) > 4.) You could read [this](http://jezebel.com/i-was-the-weirdest-person-at-bronycon-2014-1616532065) or [this](https://www.google.com/#q=%22my+little+pony%22+site:boards.straightdope.com&start=0). The fact that you know what “Rule 34” and “cloppers” are screams “Jack Mcllellan”… Good lord… Great way to _not_ perpetuate the stereotypes about Bronies, dude. _vomits_ And seriously, just out of curiously, _why_ is this such a big deal to you? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/212 "2016-12-24T00:04:55Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > I have no interest in this “manhood” thing you’re talking about. You may keep it and whatever standard you wish to use for it. I confess to a mild fondness for pissing standing up. Otherwise, agreement. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/213 "2016-12-24T00:05:57Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > fashion advice _Queer Eye for the Straight Girl_? > [@](#): > > sleep with any twit who buys her a Happy Meal You mention NAMBLA, NAMGLA, and registered sex offenders, then you make this comment. Makes one wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/214 "2016-12-24T00:11:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > _Queer Eye for the Straight Girl_? > > You mention NAMBLA, NAMGLA, and registered sex offenders, then you make this comment. Makes one wonder. Reported for calling out specific members as a pedophile ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/215 "2016-12-24T00:16:38Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Reported for calling out specific members as a pedophile Dude, 11 minutes before you posted this, you implied that _I_ was a pedophile (I had to google to see who “Jack Mcllellan” is.) ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/216 "2016-12-24T00:18:20Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Dude, 11 minutes before you posted this, you implied that _I_ was a pedophile (I had to google to see who “Jack Mcllellan” is.) Nope, I just said you were the one bringing up “rule 34” and “cloppers” in this thread. Never said you were a pedophile, I’m still just wondering why MLP is such a big deal to you. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/217 "2016-12-24T00:18:27Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Reported for calling out specific members as a pedophile If you’re telling the truth about actually filing a report, then… heh, good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/218 "2016-12-24T00:22:49Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > I’m still just wondering why MLP is such a big deal to you. Oh, I’m just horsing around. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/219 "2016-12-24T00:44:48Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > I’m still just wondering why MLP is such a big deal to you. Stop being such a neigh-sayer. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/220 "2016-12-24T00:45:55Z")
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