# Have the standards of manhood today gone to the dogs?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 23, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421 "2016-12-23T02:28:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/221 "2016-12-24T00:49:50Z")

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> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> I’m still just wondering why MLP is such a big deal to you.

Nobody said this. If you have proof that someone said this, pony up. I suspect there is none but I’m not surprised with a thorough bred asshole like you.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/222 "2016-12-24T00:50:36Z")

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> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> Nothing decadent about being a poet.

Are you a poet, Jack?

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/223 "2016-12-24T01:17:02Z")

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If you’re going to lament the existing state of ‘manliness’ (whatever the hell that is) wouldn’t it be a better idea to be an example of what it should be rather than the kind of arrogant, lying, flaming asshole \*\*Jack \*\*has been since his arrival on the board?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/224 "2016-12-24T01:47:23Z")

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This thread makes me glad I’m a Powerpuff Girls man. I don’t think I could take New Guy’s merciless teasing.

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/225 "2016-12-24T01:50:36Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> This thread makes me glad I’m a Powerpuff Girls man. I don’t think I could take New Guy’s merciless teasing.

Phineas and Ferb!

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**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/226 "2016-12-24T02:08:22Z")

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Adventure Time or GTFO.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/227 "2016-12-24T02:24:31Z")

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> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> If that’s her response then no offense, but she sounds like a classless slut, so I doubt I’d be interested in her except maybe after a few too many IPAs.

She was absolutely crushed to hear that. After such a crushing blow, I don’t think she’ll ever be her normal self again.

You should’ve seen the tears in her eyes when I said “Calico Jack won’t sleep with you”.

> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> In the OP I vaguely mentioned Bronies, then some posters got offended and were arguing basically that it’s critically considered a ‘deep’ show on par with Breaking Bad.

No, only one poster even came close, and that was you.

There’s a reason you can’t quote any of those posts, despite them being so allegedly prevalent in the thread.

> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> So point out where I said MLP makes you more likely to rape horses or whatever he was equating that with then

Nobody claimed you said anything of the sort, again, except you.

What you did say though:

> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> They enjoy it for it’s masturbatory aid, not for it’s goodness.

> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> …and why don’t you realize that ‘Rarity’ is not really your girlfriend…

Not that anyone, except you, accused you of thinking such things in the first place…

Here’s the first time that whole “MLP leads one to molest/rape horses” thing was brought up (surprise, it was by you insisting you never said it):

> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> Except I never said that watching MLP makes you more likely to… molest horses or anything of that nature.

The post it was in reply to, (again) big surprise, says nothing even close to claiming you said that:

> [@raventhief](#):
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> Bolding mine, This was the first mention of Breaking Bad. It’s only a comparison in the sense that both MLP and Breaking Bad are television shows, and that watching them indicates nothing about your life or habits, as far as I can see. Then YOU responded with MLP is no Breaking Bad. So the “comparison” was yours.

But, as with the bullshit “Breaking Bad” thing, you keep insisting that it’s somehow an argument being made against you and constantly refute it, instead of the words that are actually being said.

So, for the sake of ease, I’m just going to quote the following from earlier in the thread:

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Have you always lied about the claims of others, or is this something you’re just getting into? So far you’ve been doing it a lot. Perhaps you aren’t putting any effort into reading comprehension, or perhaps you’re just an immature, dishonest jackass.

For the other posters, I get that we’re in the pit, but at what point does the incessant strawman-ing turn into trolling?

I feel like the “nobody ever said that” argument needs to be made only so many times before the person in question is just being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/228 "2016-12-24T02:36:32Z")

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Oops, missed this one:

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Of course. Why not belittle the significant others of strangers with misogynistic slurs? Nothing more manly than that.

Assuming we’re talking about mine, beyond his infantile intention, it wasn’t actually that belittling for either of us.

Being told that you don’t meet the standards of a fucked up moron with a twisted world view & standards that went out of style in the 50’s is more of a compliment than an insult.

More concerning, I think, is that our friend here thinks calling something “weird” is an indicator of how much sex they have. (Seriously, that’s what he based his entire judgement on.)

The funniest thing is that he seems to think “I wouldn’t sleep with her” is the biggest insult he can deliver, which really isn’t actually that surprising, given how much he clearly thinks of himself. At the same time, that’s the biggest compliment of all, as I think we’d both be reconsidering our life choices if he said otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/229 "2016-12-24T02:51:33Z")

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Our bedwetter has made an appearance in the Trolls-r-us thread, starting on post 526 he’s showing his butt to the half of the board who is not following his nonsense here.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/230 "2016-12-24T03:04:12Z")

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> [@Calico\_Jack](#):
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> This might be a little too cynical, but my overall impression is that the standards of manhood in modern day America have dropped to abysmal levels.

No, you pretty much have it right. Nobody cares about courtesy or respect in general these days, and the standard for manhood seems to be someone who needs a safe space to suck his toes in.

But just watch…I’m sure one of the resident liberals will stop by shortly to tell me how wrong I am.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/231 "2016-12-24T03:07:31Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> But just watch…I’m sure one of the resident liberals will stop by shortly to tell me how wrong I am.

You’re on page 5.

Do you really think you deserve special attention or are you just incapable of reading from page 1 where that point was already argued against and essentially dismissed?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/232 "2016-12-24T03:12:00Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Nobody’s going to jerk off to that without good reason.

Yeah, I’m gonna have to agree with **BPC** on this.

What? Stop looking at me funny.

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**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/233 "2016-12-24T03:14:04Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> No, you pretty much have it right. Nobody cares about courtesy or respect in general these days, and the standard for manhood seems to be someone who needs a safe space to suck his toes in.
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> But just watch…I’m sure one of the resident liberals will stop by shortly to tell me how wrong I am.

OK well this just clinches it… I am by no means a liberal, but when **Humpy** (Was this ever sorted to **Humpy**? I know there was a thread mention where **Clothy** was potentially deemed a little too endearing.) agrees with you, it’s time to do some soul searching. Dude hasn’t been right since that brief “Sign all the kids up for karate lessons.” fad from the 90’s, which coincidentally ties into this whole external macho bullshit because of latent insecurites (sexual and non-sexual) thread.

WWHD? Then do the opposite.

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**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/234 "2016-12-24T03:39:37Z")

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NAMBLA is a Democrat voting bloc and Far Left & Left want “Special Rights” and protections for them & Pedos as “Just Anther alternative lifestyle” …

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/235 "2016-12-24T03:46:44Z")

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> [@Donpeyote](#):
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> NAMBLA is a Democrat voting bloc and Far Left & Left want “Special Rights” and protections for them & Pedos as “Just Anther alternative lifestyle” …

In this thread, it’s really an achievement to win the “‘What the hell does that have to do with anything? Of all the posts, yours makes the least amount of sense’ Award”, so congratulations!

You managed to stray off topic in a thread that didn’t even have a concise topic in the first place. That is, truly, quite impressive.

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**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/236 "2016-12-24T03:51:24Z")

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Jumping on a Threadjacked Thread and taking an ongoing ride is one of the great thrills of teh Interwebz …

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/237 "2016-12-24T03:52:26Z")

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> [@Donpeyote](#):
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> Jumping on a Threadjacked Thread and taking an ongoing ride is one of the great thrills of teh Interwebz …

It’s hard to threadjack a thread that had no real point in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/238 "2016-12-24T03:56:55Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> It’s hard to threadjack a thread that had no real point in the first place.

But this Forum/Board is loaded with horsepower enough to do it on a regular basis , glad I dug it up &look forward to hangin around more , too bad I have not been here since 2006 more often …:smack:

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/239 "2016-12-24T04:20:22Z")

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Oh, I forgot to mention that I’ve seen a couple of episodes of MLP:FIM and they’re ok. As a cartoon enthusiast I can appreciate it for what it is.

But I gotta admit Rainbow Dashs’ Sonic Rainboom is pretty bad ass.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/uHz5glnaw2Y/maxresdefault.jpg "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Season 1 - 'SONIC RAINBOOM!' Official Clip") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHz5glnaw2Y)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/240 "2016-12-24T04:24:53Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Yeah, I’m gonna have to agree with **BPC** on this.
> 
> What? Stop looking at me funny.

Nobody’s looking at you, DS. The new guy’s ignorant-reactionary trolling is more amusing than your tired narcissistic-contrarian trolling. At least for now.

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