# Have the standards of manhood today gone to the dogs? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 23, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421 "2016-12-23T02:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/241 "2016-12-24T06:55:54Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > I’m not interested in your homoerotic fantasizes A [bunch of middle-aged Greek pederasts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece#/media/File:WallPaintingTomb_Paestum_Italy_GreekColony_sm.jpg) sitting around discussing Eros with their _eromenoi_ isn’t my idea of a homoerotic fantasy - you’re the one who brought it up, Jack. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/242 "2016-12-24T07:02:07Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > except maybe after a few too many IPAs. Geez, you even drink the beer of hipster douches… > [@](#): > > just to prepare her for f-ing me anyway Too much of a wimp to actually type “fucking” on a MB? Then you may not be in any position to lecture anyone on “real men”. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/243 "2016-12-24T07:03:11Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > But this Forum/Board is loaded with horsepower enough to do it on a regular basis , glad I dug it up &look forward to hangin around more , too bad I have not been here since 2006 more often …:smack: Well 73 posts in 10 years isn’t bad. Hope you hang around more. I’ll bet you can double that in no time. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/244 "2016-12-24T08:27:56Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Geez, you even drink the beer of hipster douches… Admittedly, it’s been almost two decades since I’ve had any beer. When did the hipsters & wannabe hipsters decide that IPA is “a thing”? > [@](#): > > Too much of a wimp to actually type “fucking” on a MB? Then you may not be in any position to lecture anyone on “real men”. Well, I for one have no doubt whatsoever that the poor lass must prepare herself to “f-” the “illustrious” OP here. Prepare, steel, resign herself to her fate. Or, and this is just a WAG here, it might be kind of difficult to type that word one-handed. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/245 "2016-12-24T13:47:49Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > “Bronies” and people who watch MLP are not the same thing. “Bronies” are a specific internet ‘subculture’ that originated on 4chan. And since then it, like many other things that originated at 4chan, has changed substantially and evolved into its own thing. > [@](#): > > And I won’t speak for everyone, but the one guy I met on a film and TV forum who identified as a “Brony” was also a fan of “loli” anime porn, and was trying to convince others that there’s nothing abnormal about adult men wanting to spank it to cartoon pictures of toddler-age girls, and even tried to convince us that this was something that Charles Dickens would have approved of… or something creepy like that. > > Needless to say he was basically ‘excommunicated’ by the members of that website, I think he slithered off back to some Nambla-ish forum after he basically became persona non grata. You have been doing nothing but speaking for everyone. That one guy sounds like a tool and would be banned from most brony sites as well. > [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > lol, I think there is probably a grain of truth in that > > Must be why there are so many guys here who want people banned for no reason other than disagreeing with them, never learned how to deal with different worldviews in those ‘safe spaces’ of theirs. You’re new, so you might not know the backstory here, but the reason some people would like to see doorhinge or Clothahump banned is because they’re pretty much worthless trolls with nothing of value to contribue to virtually any discussion on the board, beyond spreading diarrhea. I don’t want you banned, despite the fact that I consider your opinions gross and wrong. > [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > In the OP I vaguely mentioned Bronies, then some posters got offended and were arguing basically that it’s critically considered a ‘deep’ show on par with Breaking Bad. Nobody did that, though. I’ll gladly argue that Avatar: The Last Airbender is on par with Breaking Bad, but nobody would claim MLP is as good as Breaking Bad. > [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > The fact that you know what “Rule 34” and “cloppers” are screams “Jack Mcllellan”… > > Good lord… Are you sure you’re a millennial? You don’t seem to know much about internet culture, or at least get shocked when others do. > [@](#): > > And seriously, just out of curiously, _why_ is this such a big deal to you? Why is it such a big deal to you? > [@Clothahump](#): > > No, you pretty much have it right. Nobody cares about courtesy or respect in general these days, and the standard for manhood seems to be someone who needs a safe space to suck his toes in. > > But just watch…I’m sure one of the resident liberals will stop by shortly to tell me how wrong I am. Whoops, Clothy agreed with him. Thread over, OP is wrong. > [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Yeah, I’m gonna have to agree with **BPC** on this. > > What? Stop looking at me funny. Fuck, ran right into that one. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/246 "2016-12-24T15:32:42Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Admittedly, it’s been almost two decades since I’ve had any beer. When did the hipsters & wannabe hipsters decide that IPA is “a thing”? Around the time of the “Craft Beer Revolution” (so in the last … decade?), I guess - it used to be PBR was the drink of the hipster douche, now it’s whatever weird-ass IPA your[_cicerone_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19808702) :rolleyes: recommends. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/247 "2016-12-24T16:28:16Z")
Every small brewer makes an IPA, probably because it is easier to throw a half ton of hops into the batch than make anything that has a subtle flavor profile. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/248 "2016-12-24T16:40:36Z")
Always remember there are massive differences between Hipster Former Longtime now retired Starbucks Barista /Pot Grower Kneckbeard from Marin that now resides in ultra Rural Eastern Shasta County and the neighboring Kneckbeard Meth Cooker/Patch Pirate Great Grandson of a Oklahoma Kluxer who came west to build Shasta Dam. ---
**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/249 "2016-12-24T17:30:13Z")
Well, I just figure that being metro bi-curious doubles the chance for a date. That’s a good thing for men, right? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/250 "2016-12-24T18:28:34Z")
The rules are established by Darwinism and are just as ruthless regardless of which way your pendulum swings. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/251 "2016-12-24T18:37:34Z")
Kneckbeard = Knucklehead Neckbeard ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/252 "2016-12-24T23:27:59Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > OK well this just clinches it… I am by no means a liberal, but when **Humpy** (Was this ever sorted to **Humpy**? I know there was a thread mention where **Clothy** was potentially deemed a little too endearing.) agrees with you, it’s time to do some soul searching. Dude hasn’t been right since that brief “Sign all the kids up for karate lessons.” fad from the 90’s, which coincidentally ties into this whole external macho bullshit because of latent insecurites (sexual and non-sexual) thread. > > WWHD? Then do the opposite. It’s posts like this that I have to point at and laugh. It is such a predictable response from a lib. It doesn’t matter that the OP was right. It doesn’t matter that I agreed with him. What matters is that I wrote a response and because of that, you promptly piped up and made a fucking idiot out of yourself with a response better suited to a 5 year old throwing a tantrum in a sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/253 "2016-12-24T23:52:13Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > I am by no means a liberal… > [@Clothahump](#): > > It is such a predictable response from a lib. There’s really no avenue of “stupid” you haven’t explored, is there **Clot**? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/254 "2016-12-25T00:07:46Z")
TL;DR … but for what I have … HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW … the ignorant shit twenty-somethings come up with … 37] A _real_ man knows how to cut people in half with an M-60 … it’s not as easy as it looks … 61] A _real_ man does dishes every night and lies to his wife it’s because he want to ease her burdens … when in fact it takes soaking a full half hour in dish water to get a _real_ man’s hands clean … 94] A _real_ man knows how to pretend to be asleep at 2am when baby needs changing … 127] A _real_ man raises his own children, all of them … 134] A _real_ man never worries about being a _real_ man … In conclusion, my guess is that the OP hasn’t been laid for awhile … it’s not that you’re not manly … it’s that you’re ugly … try getting a girl drunk, maybe that will help … a _very very_ ugly girl … hope this helps … ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/255 "2016-12-25T00:08:45Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > There’s really no avenue of “stupid” you haven’t explored, is there **Clot**? I bet you already knew that _Clothahump_ is an anagram of \*Loath Chump \*. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/256 "2016-12-25T00:24:20Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > There’s really no avenue of “stupid” you haven’t explored, is there **Clot**? His response was typical for a liberal. As was yours. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/257 "2016-12-25T00:43:03Z")
Curious that so much of the thread was dedicated to media preferences. Traditionally, I wouldn’t think “real men” would have any free time to waste watching TV or movies. They’d be running their own businesses, taking care of their family, contributing to their community, chopping firewood, and so on. Maybe they’d be making their own TV shows. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/258 "2016-12-25T00:49:29Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > His response was typical for a liberal. As was yours. Real men don’t clutch onto guns or use the word “lib.” There’s a lot of other things. I don’t have the time. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/259 "2016-12-25T01:05:55Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > His response was typical for a liberal. As was yours. Actually, conservatives think you’re stupid as well … that’s why you hang around a liberal board … even The Donald didn’t want your vote … ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/260 "2016-12-25T03:06:53Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > His response was typical for a liberal. As was yours. Those libs are all so dumb! It’s not like a smart and honest person could ever disagree with you, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421.md?page=14)