# Have the standards of manhood today gone to the dogs? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 23, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421 "2016-12-23T02:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/161 "2016-12-23T21:47:48Z")
You keep saying NAMBLA, first in reference to My Little Pony (a show with mostly female “young adult” characters) and now about loli porn. You do realize that the “b” in NAMBLA stands for “boy”, right? ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/162 "2016-12-23T21:49:51Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > You keep saying NAMBLA, first in reference to My Little Pony (a show with mostly female “young adult” characters) and now about loli porn. You do realize that the “b” in NAMBLA stands for “boy”, right? Sorry, I meant NAMGLA ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/163 "2016-12-23T21:50:53Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Are you aware that Playboy said that they will no longer publish nude pictorials? Anyone who reads it _will_ be doing it for the articles If a man can’t appreciate the look of a woman unless she’s baring it all, then that doesn’t say much about his taste. I’d much rather see a woman well dressed than buck naked myself. Maybe I’ll subscribe to it and give it a shot. [![](https://venturesafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dirie.jpg) ](https://venturesafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dirie.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/164 "2016-12-23T22:01:10Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > If a man can’t appreciate the look of a woman unless she’s baring it all, then that doesn’t say much about his taste. > > I’d much rather see a woman well dressed than buck naked myself. Maybe I’ll subscribe to it and give it a shot. > > [http://venturesafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dirie.jpg](http://venturesafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dirie.jpg) Big Cosmo guy there, huh, Cupcake? Real men read Hustler. What is it with these kids today? ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/165 "2016-12-23T22:03:54Z")
70 % of the Males under 40 have been brainwarshed by Liberal/Socialist Teachers & Profs from Pre School to Post Grad School and are not He Men Outdoorsmen by any stretch of their imagination . ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/166 "2016-12-23T22:26:46Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Sorry, I meant NAMGLA No, what you _meant_ was clearly DUUUUUURRUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRURURURRRRRRRRRPP! ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/167 "2016-12-23T22:27:31Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > 70 % of the Males under 40 have been brainwarshed by Liberal/Socialist Teachers & Profs from Pre School to Post Grad School and are not He Men Outdoorsmen by any stretch of their imagination . lol, I think there is probably a grain of truth in that Must be why there are so many guys here who want people banned for no reason other than disagreeing with them, never learned how to deal with different worldviews in those ‘safe spaces’ of theirs. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/168 "2016-12-23T22:28:02Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > “Bronies” and people who watch MLP are not the same thing. “Bronies” are a specific internet ‘subculture’ that originated on 4chan. > > Not everyone who’s watched the show is necessarily a “Brony”. . . . Not everyone who’s watched Star Trek is a Trekkie; the two terms refer to energetic fans of the shows. Trekkies and Bronies are not a “specific internet culture,” but merely very dedicated fans. ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/169 "2016-12-23T22:28:34Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > Big Cosmo guy there, huh, Cupcake? Real men read Hustler. What is it with these kids today? I don’t like slutty women, I like women with a side of class. I’m not a neanderthal, but I’m not a ‘little lord Fauntleroy’ either. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/170 "2016-12-23T22:29:06Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > 70 % of the Males under 40 have been brainwarshed by Liberal/Socialist Teachers & Profs from Pre School to Post Grad School and are not He Men Outdoorsmen by any stretch of their imagination . Thanks, this thread needs such a positive, optimistic post. If only we could reach that last 30 percent! ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/171 "2016-12-23T22:32:52Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Thanks, this thread needs such a positive, optimistic post. If only we could reach that last 30 percent! If only you could, then takeover by the Chinese would be easy when men have degenerated to such a pitiful state that a single Russian with an AK and a bottle of Vodka could single highhandedly conquer them. So it would certainly expidite a socialist regime, as democracy only works when many are strong, when many are weak and few are strong, totalitarian rule ends up following when the weak are too fit to self-govern and vote in whoever offers them the most handouts. Personally I don’t care at this point, because the more men who become sissified, the less hypermasculine I have to act to swoon their women, in fact the mere fact that I’m not obese even though I barely lift automatically makes me attractive to women pretty often, some even assume I must be an athlete just because I don’t have a beer gut the size of a bowling ball. ---
**Author:** ![akwally1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akwally1/32/3220_2.png) [@akwally1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akwally1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/172 "2016-12-23T22:33:20Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Guess some people are so insecure in their manhood… That they can’t just be comfortable with who they are as a man and instead have to attack others for not living up to their narrow view of what a man should be. In my opinion, a “real” man only concerns himself with how he interacts with the rest of the world, and let’s other people live their own lives. Lighten up, Francis. Mark ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/173 "2016-12-23T22:37:20Z")
> [@akwally1](#): > > That they can’t just be comfortable with who they are as a man and instead have to attack others for not living up to their narrow view of what a man should be. > > In my opinion, a “real” man only concerns himself with how he interacts with the rest of the world, and let’s other people live their own lives. > > Lighten up, Francis. > Mark Yawn… ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/174 "2016-12-23T22:56:28Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > I like women with a side of class. Well, if you’d stop ordering women from the SONIC drive through after the bars kick you out, maybe you’d be less of an Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/175 "2016-12-23T23:02:01Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > I don’t like slutty women, I like women with a side of class. I’m not a neanderthal, but I’m not a ‘little lord Fauntleroy’ either. Meh… pansies… the lot of em. Back in my day we neanderthals clubbed the women we wanted. THOSE were the real men. Hunting in nothing but a loincloth and the natural hair that the big ball of fire in the sky gave us. Our tools were made out of wood and stone and bone… from the animals we killed ourselves. Now, you got your nylon and your bakelite and your polyester. They can’t even kill an animal with their bare hands anymore. Gotta stand back 100 yards and shoot it… with a arrow or one those boomstick things. Buncha sissies these Homo Sapiens are. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/176 "2016-12-23T23:02:25Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > You keep saying NAMBLA, first in reference to My Little Pony (a show with mostly female “young adult” characters) and now about loli porn. You do realize that the “b” in NAMBLA stands for “boy”, right? 'Twas a Freudian slip, no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/177 "2016-12-23T23:04:02Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > “I am a warrior, so that my son may be a merchant, so that his son may be a poet.” > > ― John Quincy Adams > > The reward of a successful generation is a decadent one. If your children have to be as hard as you were, you’ve failed in your duties. Nothing decadent about being a poet. ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/178 "2016-12-23T23:06:53Z")
> [@Debillw3](#): > > I shared this with my fiancée. > > Her response: > > This is so fucking weird. > > (I’m going to assume that he didn’t exactly make her tingly…) If that’s her response then no offense, but she sounds like a classless slut, so I doubt I’d be interested in her except maybe after a few too many IPAs. I’d probably have to teach her basic hygiene and fashion advice just to prepare her for f-ing me anyway, so again I wouldn’t be interested. I’ve been propositioned by easy middle-age tramps before who I turned down because I actually have a little thing called self-respect. But hey if some tramp who’s vocab stops at “fucking weird” is the kind of woman who’s in your league, then enjoy your matrimony life sentence. brah; me, I’m into women who know how to be a lady. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BD83LKWqF9o/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHOBYACsAOKAgwIABABGCcgWShyMA8=&rs=AOn4CLA03GzOshWWDPbFcuLcOGT0ywbxfg "Ghetto fight at the food stamp office") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD83LKWqF9o) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/179 "2016-12-23T23:07:48Z")
> [@Calico\_Jack](#): > > Yawn… Clearly responses of mockery don’t interest you. You’d prefer frothing rage, no doubt. Heh… good luck with that, boy. ---
**Author:** ![Calico\_Jack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calico_jack/32/7320_2.png) [@Calico\_Jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calico_Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421/180 "2016-12-23T23:09:14Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Clearly responses of mockery don’t interest you. You’d prefer frothing rage, no doubt. > > Heh… good luck with that, boy. So far the kids here haven’t disappointed anyone on that, I didn’t expect this go to on this long, but apparently this subforum is a haven of butthurt MLP fans, go figure [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-the-standards-of-manhood-today-gone-to-the-dogs/775421.md?page=10)