Jinx! Buy me a Coke! (punches Little Nemo in the arm)
And…in my study of history, the phenomenon of the parades of mistresses and concubines of so many of the most powerful men throughout the ages has swayed me towards thinking that in the majority of the time, a man who is sufficiently powerful will feed his urge for sexual promiscuity, regardless of the religious or social strictures around him. Rock stars to me fall into the same category of kings and emperors in history in terms of their influence and appeal. But the basic concept remains the same: man of power, status and wealth = easy availability of women.
I do believe that the majority of human males would have sex with many different women if they could. By “if they could” I mean both if they were able to attract these women to them sexually, and also if they could do so hypothetically without the objection of their wives or significant others. Many men would not want to cheat on their wives (although some obviously have no problem with it) but if this first category of men could, somehow, by some magical genie’s command, have sex with a lot of different attractive women and have their wives not mind it, they would.
I do believe it is more or less hard wired into a male human’s DNA to want to do this.
Quick hijack
I know virtually nothing about Alice Cooper’s life, music or religion, but isn’t his whole schtick a faux-Satanic-possessed persona, with whole albums that are themed with such subjects as serial killers, various occult practices, human sacrifice, necrophillia, etc.?
How can that possibly jibe with being a practicing Christian?
I assume that the answer I will hear is that it’s all an act, and he is merely playing a role, just like an actor who portrays an evil character, but to me it seems that it’s almost impossible to square the two diametrically opposed parts of his life.
Can you please take this somewhere else? Your argument has diverged rather widely from the topic of the thread.
Why? Can’t a Christian actor play a heinous monster in a movie or a TV show?
I dunno; but maybe the defintion of a “practicing Christian” can encompass more than you suppose. If he’s faithful to his family, treats other people the way he’d want to be treated and doesn’t lie, cheat or steal, looks to me like he’s already way ahead of a lot of ostentatious Bible thumpers out there.
Alice Cooper is a stage act.
Vincent Furnier is a husband, father, golfer, and pretty decent guy.
Then you must be very unhappy.
Bolding mine. That’s not what you said (or implied) to begin with, and it’s 100% different. Hell, I’d have sex with multiple other dudes if my SO wouldn’t mind it. But what stops me is if I did decide to have sex with other dudes I would suffer in my relationship with him and no longer be allowed to sleep with him. Worse, I’d lose his companionship. I think you underestimate how much this is a two-sided coin here.
Also hijack:
I was on a flight with Bono once and he was in the waiting area with the rest of us schlubs for an hour ahead of boarding. Now, he and I were off in a less-populated seating area virtually alone. I didn’t even recognize him till I heard him start talking on his cell phone (I mean, who in Atlanta has an Irish accent?) The phone conversation was with his wife and was too cute for words. It’s certainly not proof he’s faithful but it certainly seemed he was inclined towards it.
I actually agree with you, but his whole career seems to celebrate and glorify murder, Satanism, chaos and evil—I don’t think that he is ACTUALLY a murderer, or an evil man, etc. but for his music to fixate on only those type subjects (which I will gladly acknowledge will sell a lot more albums than Born-Again Christian themed music would) seems impossible to reconcile.
If an actor refused to take on ANY roles except for evil, depraved monsters, for their entire acting career, I would have trouble believing that he was serious about being a Born Again Christian (or a observant Orthodox Jew or a practicing Muslim).
ETA—I am not looking for a serious debate, or trying to bash Alice Cooper, this is just something I have a bit of trouble wrapping my head around, and I assumed that Dopers would respond as you have so far.
Thanks for your input!!!
Could you please explain what exactly you think I said or implied to begin with? I’m having trouble understanding where you’re coming from here. By “not monogamous” I did not necessarily mean “unfaithful.” I also meant “not in a committed relationship with one person.”
Robert Smith of The Cure has been married to his wife for eons, and I’ve never heard a breath of scandal about them.
Stevie Ray Vaughn and band toured with their wives at least once (this would have been, dunno, IIRC around 1980 or 81). I worked at a college radio station and Stevie Ray did an interview after a show. Radio station types all agreed Double Trouble were pretty boring becuase of the wives and no interest in going out and partying.
[FWIW, The Adam Ant after party was a wild full blown orgy]
Rock star, schmock star, look at Steve and Edie!
Argent Towers, lindsaybluth, if you want to argue about the larger issues of men and monogamy, start a new thread in GD. This thread is for examples of men (apparently, I’m not seeing references to women) who remained faithful to their wives (ditto, contrariwise) for their entire rock careers. And no, Argent Towers, there’s no loophole for hijacking just because you’re the OP.
twickster, Cafe Society moderator
This changed. I saw SRV in December of 1986 at the Syria Mosque in Pittsburgh - this was only a month and a half after he finished rehab. He played perfectly, but looked like a wreck.
I saw him a couple more times before the crash. 
I think that Alice in his prime may have lived the debauched life you seem to be thinking of. He got married in 1976, which seems to have cooled him down a bit, and quit drinking in the mid-1980s, which probably cooled him off a lot. Considering this guy hasn’t had a hit since 1973 (1974 if you count “Muscle of Love”), the timeline makes sense.
What DOESN’T make sense is his seeming admiration for socialism in Wayne’s World and his subsequent endorsement of Sarah Palin recently. I guess one’s a role and one’s reality, but c’mon.
Agreed about the drugs part ONLY. Gail came to town about 3 years ago and did a talk on campus which included a very interesting video interview of FZ. Not only does FZ freely discuss doing groupies, after the video Gail mentions “her husband’s sexual practices” - almost offhandedly.
Eddie Van Halen was reputed to have been faithful to Valerie throughout their marriage.
Even before he got married, he apparently had a relatively stable personal life. He had long-term relationships with girlfriends Christine Frka and Cindy Lang when his career was at its peak.
Dude, you’re way behind - post 22 already refuted me and had a book! 