Well, it’s certainly a subjective call, but Ethel Rosenberg wasn’t exactly coyote-ugly, given the times…
Shoot to kill orders is a legal sentence.
They had to be careful, considering how well she handled a sawed-off BAR. You didn’t take chances with Bonnie OR Clyde, and if the cops could’ve nuked them from orbit they would.
It applies all the more to on-line bulletin boards with generally shortish posts: Don’t Bury the Lead.
“Shoot to kill” is not a sentence at all. Or is it?
It would be the only way for sanctioned societal mores to be thoroughly achieved.
There’s some debate on that point. There are no eyewitness accounts of her injuring anyone and some say that she never fired a weapon in anger. This was especially true after her right leg was badly burned in an auto accident. Their crime spree only lasted two years and she was incapacitated for the second. Towards the end, she had to hop around on one leg.
Clyde on the other hand, was a fine and eager shooter and nigh on invulnerable for a long time.
She had plenty of male suitors and would have had no difficulty having her dance card filled at a hootenanny.
I’ll use the old lawyerly argumentative method here (I forget what it is called) of “I don’t think you are right, and if you are, here’s why it doesn’t matter.” 
- No, I don’t think it is. A legal sentence is pronounced by a judge, through a court.
- Even if it is, that doesn’t invalidate my point. My point is not that Bonnie and Clyde weren’t executed (though I do believe that they were not). My point was to refute Blakeyrat’s statement that:
“I’d say for sure she was executed. I’m not sure how you could argue otherwise.”
Whether you think she was executed or not, it is foolishness to say there is no argument that she wasn’t. There are arguments to be made on both sides, and to say that you can’t see how the other side could possibly argue otherwise shows a profound lack of imagination.
First the restrictive definition of execution - never see the term ‘gangland execution’?
When the state in the person of any civil authority orders shoot to kill that is an extra-judicial order for execution.
As to Bonnie and Clyde, they were shot and killed by agents of the state, not in a gun battle, but in an ambush assault meant to kill them. If not execution, what?
I need the expanded definition to fit the post I came on to make.
Between 1884 and 1923, 76 black women were lynched or executed in the US. I’m sure some of them were attractive.
Arguing in the alternative.
Cervin: According to Wikipedia, Frankie Silver was hung july 12, 1833, in Burke County, N.C. I don’t think “Frankie and Johnny” was based on her death. In her novel, “The Ballad of Frankie Silver,” Sharyn mcCrumb agrees with me.
You know, something occurred to me the other day that ties in to this thread.
At work, I have to see mug shots; lots of them.
Of thousands that I’ve seen, I’ve only run across maybe a couple dozen pictures of very attractive women, and less than 10 that were stunningly beautiful. This is taking into consideration that sometimes people don’t look their best after they’ve just been arrested.
The obvious question that follows, is “Are cops less likely to arrest hot chicks.” Also, “Are judges less likely to throw the book at beautiful women.”
Incidentally, I’ve seen many more pictures of men who would considered attractive, but that could be simply because men are more likely to be arrested, and young men are more likely do to dumb things. You’d have to ask the FBI about the numbers though.
Maybe it just means that there are very few beautiful women in the world.
Damn, that wasn’t easy to read. But just as disturbing was the Mad Men episode that flashed into my head when I saw that picture, in which it’s revealed that Peggy Olson is an escaped Nazi war criminal. :eek: They could call the episode The Beautiful Beast.
Those photos of Bonnie upthread are not great, she’s squinting in the sun. Her mug shot and a photo of her on her wedding day at age 16 show her to be rather pretty. (Blanche was pretty, too.)
The three Manson women were young and attractive. Leslie Van Houten, Patricia Krenwinkel, and Susan Atkins all got the death sentence.
They were saved because California eliminated the death sentence. Otherwise all three would have been executed.
To be exact, California didn’t eliminate the death penalty. The U.S. Supreme Court overturned all death penalty laws and ordered the states to completely rewrite them. There were no executions in the years 1966 through 1976, inclusive.
But the members of the Manson family were sentenced to death in 1971. The sentence was reduced to life imprisonment in 1972 when the Californian Supreme Court rendered all prior death sentences invalid. And yes, some of those girls were very good looking.