# Have we ever had a bigger braggart as President?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 29, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675 "2019-10-29T22:28:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/21 "2019-10-30T03:48:10Z")

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Another vote for Theodore Roosevelt, to the extent that any historical comparisons can be made.

Said his daughter of TR, “He wants to be the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral, and the baby at every christening."

For Roosevelt, everything was always the best and the greatest (or, perhaps, “bully”). He was known to suck the oxygen out of the room.

The difference, though, was that he was a voracious reader and prolific author. It’s debatable whether Trump has ever read a book. (Imagine a Trump who could read a book overnight and be prepared to lecture on it in the morning).

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/22 "2019-10-30T04:18:13Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> You could not find anyone worse.

Now you’ve done it. Quick, turn around widdershins three times and spit.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/23 "2019-10-30T04:52:07Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Said his daughter of TR, “He wants to be the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral, and the baby at every christening."

As opposed to Trump’s wanting to bang the bride at every wedding, condemn the corpse at every funeral, and act like the baby at every christening.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/24 "2019-10-30T04:58:04Z")

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Did’t we have threads like these when W was President?  
Cannot wait to see who comes after Trump and gets him to look good.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/25 "2019-10-30T04:58:56Z")

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I’ve decided that I hate pretty much all people - conservative or liberal don’t make much difference.

Human race, go to hell.

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/26 "2019-10-30T07:14:09Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> As opposed to Trump’s wanting to bang the bride at every wedding, condemn the corpse at every funeral, and act like the baby at every christening.

That’s hilarious

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/27 "2019-10-30T07:20:34Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Did’t we have threads like these when W was President?  
> Cannot wait to see who comes after Trump and gets him to look good.

If we ever get to the point we’re looking back on the Trump presidency as “the good old days”… well I can only picture it like the worst post-apocalypse dystopian movie you’ve ever seen.

“Hey, remember back when Trump was running things and we actually had electricity?”

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/28 "2019-10-30T08:03:56Z")

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Who would have thought it possible that we’d have a silver-spoon version of Archie fucking Bunker as president in the year 2019? An incompetent, bumbling imbecile completely unequipped to lead. God damn every last Trump voter. The pathetic babies lost two elections and then fully embraced a corrupt gas bag as some sort of sickening revenge.

Hopefully 2020 will be the last time the decent people of America need to take out the trash, but I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/29 "2019-10-30T09:18:51Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Not to mention Theodore Roosevelt.

The difference is that Theodore Roosevelt actually lived up to much of his larger-than-life image while Napoleon Boneyspurs is a blustering blowhard with the Merde-as touch that turns everything to shit.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/30 "2019-10-30T09:21:27Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> As opposed to Trump’s wanting to bang the bride at every wedding, condemn the corpse at every funeral, and act like the baby at every christening.

++. Well said.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/31 "2019-10-30T09:37:17Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> As opposed to Trump’s wanting to bang the bride at every wedding, condemn the corpse at every funeral, and act like the baby at every christening.

_Wanting_? Have you been asleep last 4 years? He is **doing** it. Banging the entire Bridal party, insulting the corpse _and_ hitting on the widow, holding the baby upside down and proclaiming that "_he has a weak chin_ and telling the mom _how did you get knocked up, you are just a 5, 6 tops!_, while having workmen busy putting “Trump” outside the Cathedral and he is getting away with it., nay he is prospering.

Would you at this stage be surprised if he returns Alaska to Russia and is punished by the 22nd Amendment being altered to allow him to run for a thrid term?

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/32 "2019-10-30T14:13:25Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Who would have thought it possible that we’d have a silver-spoon version of Archie fucking Bunker as president in the year 2019? An incompetent, bumbling imbecile completely unequipped to lead. God damn every last Trump voter. The pathetic babies lost two elections and then fully embraced a corrupt gas bag as some sort of sickening revenge.
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> Hopefully 2020 will be the last time the decent people of America need to take out the trash, but I doubt it.

Not even a silver spoon. He’s like plastic takeaway silverware with silver plate.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/33 "2019-10-30T14:27:41Z")

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> [@margin](#):
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> Not even a silver spoon. He’s like plastic takeaway silverware with silver plate.

Trump doesn’t do _silver_. Gold paint all the way!

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/34 "2019-10-30T16:13:00Z")

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As others have said Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt were braggarts too, but they at least had done things worth bragging about!

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/35 "2019-10-30T16:28:03Z")

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Yes, I’m sure many 19th century Presidents could have vied for the title, given the general American instinct for braggadocio at the time (and even now), hilariously satirized by Dickens in _Martin Chuzzlewit_ (my God, what fun he would have had with Trump!)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/36 "2019-10-30T16:51:38Z")

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We’ve had braggarts for president before, and we’ve had a few hot heads too. Teddy Roosevelt (adventurer and led a charge in a real fight), Andrew Jackson (a real “charmer” that one, but also a military man and duelist), U.S Grant (a notorious drunk but with a successful military record), etc.

However none of them was ever guilty of cowardice. And none of them deliberately sold out their own country to the Russians for personal profit.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/37 "2019-10-30T16:53:34Z")

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Or fooled a bunch (millions!) of morons by promising them a giant wall along our border. Hey, how’s that wall coming along, anyway?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/38 "2019-10-30T16:54:50Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Who would have thought it possible that we’d have a silver-spoon version of Archie fucking Bunker as president in the year 2019? An incompetent, bumbling imbecile completely unequipped to lead. God damn every last Trump voter. The pathetic babies lost two elections and then fully embraced a corrupt gas bag as some sort of sickening revenge.
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> Hopefully 2020 will be the last time the decent people of America need to take out the trash, but I doubt it.

Archie would never deliberately hurt anyone. He was dead wrong on many things (of course) but he lacked the spite, the hate. And as the show went on, it showed that he was capable of learning.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/39 "2019-10-30T16:55:50Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Or fooled a bunch (millions!) of morons by promising them a giant wall along our border. Hey, how’s that wall coming along, anyway?

They moved the wall to Colorado.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-bigger-braggart-as-president/842675/40 "2019-10-30T17:02:17Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> They moved the wall to Colorado.

They did not. Those are the Rockies.

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