It just seems odd to me that a program designed to encourage discussions actually has features built into it for the purpose of discouraging discussions.
Also, hitting the quote on your nm doesn’t show me anything in the preview pane except the nm itself. I tried that before, and tried it again just now.
I think that people have different ideas about what encourages and what discourages discussions.
I agree that it can make a whole lot of difference how the moderators are behaving; it also makes a whole lot of difference who’s in the community – though moderators have some control over that as well.
Yup. I participate on some message boards where this software, with all its built-in safety rails, would be terrific.
The point isn’t to discourage discussion. The point is to help guide discussion so they will be pleasant and helpful for all.
This board has fairly active moderation, and fairly considerate posters. I’ve been on boards with a handful of posters completely dominate to the detriment of everyone else. Here, some mod would stop by and say, “hey you, stop posting to this thread”, but most boards don’t have the manpower or the will to do that. And that’s where Discourse would be a godsend.
There are all sorts of features of Discord that I don’t care for. (And some implementation choices the SDMB made that I don’t care for, too.) But overall, it’s terrific software that’s very well thought out. It’s also very flexible. If we had an active admin, we could CHANGE most of the things you don’t like without making any changes to the software – just by tweaking settings. Would we want to? Maybe. I expect that when we get a new admin those discussions will be had. Maybe Ed has the capacity to do it eventually, I dunno. (But I assume he retired for a reason, and can’t spend all his time dealing with this board.)
– but that’s at least as much work as adding enough other extra characters to satisfy discobot. Plus which I have to remember the exact extra characters to add. So I don’t suppose I’ll usually bother; but I’ll try to make a note of that somewhere in case I ever very badly want to make a post with fewer than five characters in it.
You can remember that it stands for “non-breaking space”. It’s useful for adding to the end of quoted replies so that discobot doesn’t disappear them. The other shortcut for the same non-breaking space is &160;
I used it to keep your quoted reply visible in this post.
Faster and easier to just leave off the final punctuation mark, or whatever, in the quote.
It probably won’t help me in particular to remember that it stands for “non-breaking space” because that’s not a term I ordinarily use. I’ll see whether it sticks in my head, though.
I don’t see the “win” part for codinghorror. I’m sure he gets enough constructive comments from the other 1,499 (from the wiki on Discourse) forums (some of which look to be profitable businesses) that he doesn’t need more from one forum that identifies itself to be very unique.
Based on the posts I saw of his, he just wanted to participate like any other member and help out where he could in his area of expertise like any member who has specialized knowledge. IMO, he wasn’t allowed to do that even if he technically could.
It may in fact be possible to disable the message. I don’t know. I suspect there are many tweaks that haven’t been made because we don’t have a board administrator.
At this point I’m purely expressing my subjective opinion, but the “win” part for codinghorror is simply the straightforward part of the feedback and user interaction. There is no question that the company that Jeff co-founded has been innovative and successful, but so have many others that subsequently crashed. Like DEC, for instance (Digital Equipment) which at its peak had worldwide revenues of over $26 billion in today’s dollars and was renowned for its innovation and the expertise and methodological discipline of its engineering.
But DEC was also commensurately arrogant (albeit in their very refined gentlemanly way) correctly assessing its innovative products as being technologically superior, and in their view, that was all that mattered – what customers were actually doing in the real world didn’t matter and was often viewed as stupid. That same sea change in technology that DEC was ignoring almost killed mighty IBM, too. My experience with the tech industry is that arrogance is never a virtue, and humility and the willingness to listen brings many rewards. If this sounds like sanctimonious preaching, I apologize, but it is lived experience.
True dat. is a HTML thing that HTML nerds would know. But it’s still easier to add or remove a punctuation mark or some such, which is what I often do.
Actually, I couldn’t easily remember the   thing (nb @needscoffee: gotta have that # in there too) but I can remember so I’ll probably use that more now.