# Have we passed 1,000 U.S. casualties in Iraq? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 8, 2004, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643 "2004-09-08T12:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/1 "2004-09-08T12:49:58Z")
I was checking on the body count and saw at: [http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/](http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/) that they have the number of U.S. dead at 1,001. Is that true? Has anyone else reported that? I would’ve assumed there would be a bigger noise about it. ---
**Author:** ![Shrinking\_Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Shrinking\_Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shrinking_Violet)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/2 "2004-09-08T12:56:42Z")
I heard it on BBC News this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/3 "2004-09-08T13:02:03Z")
[nitpick] Actually, we passed 1,000 casualties quite a while ago. You mean to ask if we’ve passed 1,000 deaths. [/nitpick] As to the answer - [yes](http://www.cnn.com). ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/4 "2004-09-08T13:02:54Z")
[1002 this morning](http://icasualties.org/oif/) [Global Security](http://www.Globalsecurity.Org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm) has slightly different numbers. > [@](#): > > As of 07 September 2004 the US had officially announced the names of 983 American service members who had died in Iraq since the beginning of the war. At least 15 additional deaths have been reported since the beginning of September, though the names have not been released, pending notification of next of kin. [Centcom reports casualties](http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/casualties.asp) in a way that makes it hard to figure a running total. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/5 "2004-09-08T13:03:50Z")
[GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=275115) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/6 "2004-09-08T13:04:49Z")
> [@toadspittle](#): > > I would’ve assumed there would be a bigger noise about it. The [Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2721-2004Sep7.html) has it on page one. The opening paragraph even has the warning: “Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld declared that the insurgency is likely to turn even more violent in coming months…” [USA Today](http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-09-07-iraq-cover_x.htm) also has it on the front page. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/7 "2004-09-08T13:10:44Z")
Some counts include civilian contractors. Some count soldiers. Some count both. It is right around 1,000 soldiers and a handful of contractors. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/8 "2004-09-08T13:15:46Z")
It’s on the front page of USA Today, the Washington Post, [CNN.com](http://CNN.com)…you name it. FWIW, [Iraq Coalition Casualties](http://www.icasualties.org/oif/) gets its info directly from CENTCOM’s press releases (and has links to each one); for all I know, your link may do the same. ICC updates their site multiple times daily, and breaks down the casualties in a number of ways: US/UK/other coalition; combat/noncombat; by month; before/after end of the combat phase; before/after the theoretical handover of power; and so forth. It’s also got injury totals, and an admittedly incomplete list of contractor deaths in Iraq. As of this morning, the count stands at 1002. Plus ~50 U.S. contractors. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/9 "2004-09-08T13:19:00Z")
Plus [an estimated 12-14,000 Iraqis killed](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040907.wxtoll08/BNStory/International/). You remember the Iraqis - they’re the folks we came to rescue from Saddam’s evil clutches. ---
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/10 "2004-09-08T13:26:46Z")
Thanks, folks. It’s now on the Yahoo! news brief, natch. ---
**Author:** ![PussyCow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@PussyCow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PussyCow)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/11 "2004-09-08T14:08:48Z")
This is weird because I would have sworn I heard Ted Koppel saying we passed the 1000 mark a few months ago. Maybe he meant civian Americans and soldiers. Maybe I was dreaming. It’s hard to tell. Nobody else remembers this report? ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/12 "2004-09-08T14:28:47Z")
> [@PussyCow](#): > > This is weird because I would have sworn I heard Ted Koppel saying we passed the 1000 mark a few months ago. That was probably the death toll for the whole US-led coalition: [http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/09/iraq.main/](http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/09/iraq.main/) ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-passed-1-000-u-s-casualties-in-iraq/263643/13 "2004-09-08T14:31:40Z")
> [@PussyCow](#): > > This is weird because I would have sworn I heard Ted Koppel saying we passed the 1000 mark a few months ago. Maybe he meant civian Americans and soldiers. Maybe I was dreaming. It’s hard to tell. > Nobody else remembers this report? He probably meant American troops plus troops from other countries. That total passed one thousand some time ago. Not, of course, counting Iraqi soldiers fighting for the coalition - they don’t count. The total number of soldier’s families ripped apart is **1134** as of today, if you count all coalition countries. This includes the families of 65 Brits, 11 Spaniards, 10 Poles, 19 Italians, 8 Ukrainians, 6 Bulgarians, 2 Thai, 2 Dutchmen and 3 Slovaks. And 1003 American families, not counting the families of contractors.