# Have we reached the point when it is kooky to not believe in massive amounts of intelligent life having evolved throughout the universe?

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**Created:** [August 19, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-reached-the-point-when-it-is-kooky-to-not-believe-in-massive-amounts-of-intelligent-life-having-evolved-throughout-the-universe/969972 "2022-08-19T23:30:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-reached-the-point-when-it-is-kooky-to-not-believe-in-massive-amounts-of-intelligent-life-having-evolved-throughout-the-universe/969972/406 "2025-10-28T19:52:23Z")

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Just resurrecting this zombie as there was a really interesting study which proposes that an advanced civilisation might want to live in what it calls a “red frame environment”: an area with heavy time dilation which would therefore allow it to explore outwards in a way that synchronises the rate of passing time. They could position objects in and out of different reference frames to exploit time dilation to build resources or advance their technology very quickly. And it gives them time to advance compared to anybody outside the red frame and especially compared to an attacking fleet of ships flying towards them through interstellar space. A very interesting study indeed.

> **[Galactic Empires May Live at the Center of our Galaxy, Hence Why We Don't...](https://www.universetoday.com/articles/galactic-empires-may-live-at-the-center-of-our-galaxy-hence-why-we-dont-hear-from-them)**
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> In a recent paper, a team of researchers proposes how humanity may someday relocate its entire civilization near the center of our galaxy to take advantage of the relativistic effects of the supermassive black hole there. They also indicate how other...

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