Have you ever been glad that someone died?

In My Humble Opinion
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I think most of our emotions are pretend emotions.

We are taught what we are ‘supposed’ to feel rather than having real emotions.

All relationships are difficult; and in reality, there are mixed emotions when all people one knows dies if there was any real connection with that person in the first place.

I think when people cry when someone dies, that’s really just selfishness and sadness for a personal loss as if someone lost some treasured possession.

If we really believe in Heaven, why would we cry? Doesn’t crying prove that we really don’t believe in such a place? Or, isn’t it just one feeling sad that something was taken away from us?

‘Supposed to’ feelings are what really cause the problems in life. We feel guilt, and guilt makes everybody do worse, not better. One starts worring about whether they really feel anything for someone when they died, and what if it is a healty and normal thing to NOT feel sad?

But, we’ve been taught that we must feel sad, and if we don’t then something is wrong. This is the sick premise. We feel what we feel, and maybe in a month, or a year, or five years we’ll suddenly have a burst of appreciation for that person. Maybe we NEVER really appreciated that person, we just pretended to all our lives and we’re crying because we know we didn’t ever have a chance to express that appreciation.

Again, selfishness, tied to crying about someone who died.

To have everybody mope around a casket with a plastic person who is no longer the person who used to live is a sick concept.

To make people feel guilty as if they should feel emotions they don’t feel is the sick thing.

One, hopefully, has already… many times, shown a person how much they appreciated them during their lives. And, if one has strong feelings of grief - so what? And, if we don’t, so what?

Either way, people, because they are different from one-another, grieve in their own ways.

Maybe we’re SUPPOSED to be happy when people die. Maybe it is the knowledge that nothing has been lost, and the love is still there because love never dies. And, one appreciates, and when one appreciates one feels HAPPY not sad.

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I worked on a research project for a few years with a professor who was a world-class asshole. I don’t think he’s dead yet, but the world will certainly become a better place when he does. I knew a lot of his assistant workers – and especially his grad students – who I think are likely to agree.

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I tell you, if that son of a bitch Brock Turner died tomorrow I wouldn’t weep a tear. I’d rejoice.

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“Better them than me” - Han Solo

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And did you?

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Yeah… I have known one or two people who were so shitty, their deaths (Donne notwithstanding) did not diminish me.

And…yeah, I feel a little guilty about it. But not one god damn millionth as guilty as they should have felt about their sins.

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We are all mortal. As a Jew I believe that it brings enormous bad luck to wish for death of anyone who has not killed anyone themselves. Or to be happy about their death.

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According to Judaism it is absolutely unacceptable to wish hell on someone except

– a murderer
– an open atheist

As no one is sinless, they may call retribution on themselves. According to many branches of Western Christianity, anyone who believes is guaranteed Salvation, thus they can wish eternal punishment on others.

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Bolding mine.

You are in error. Even Jesus was grieved at the death of others. Otherwise, why would he have raised Lazarus, and the daughter ef Jairus, from death? He wanted to make them, and their relatives, happy when they had been so unhappy. He didn’t put them down because of their grief.

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Wow it’s nice to see taking another person’s life is right up there with not believing in God. Gotta keep our priorities straight. :rolleyes:

But seriously, at this current moment I agree wholeheartedly with Anaamika. While I don’t advocate someone going out and killing him, if he somehow happened to get run over by an errand steamroller…feet first…I wouldn’t be upset. Delicious irony would have the steamroller driver drunk lol

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I won’t say that I don’t wish death on anyone; I will say that there are obituaries I would read with pleasure.

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I knew an AIDS denier who was HIV+ and wouldn’t take and meds. Worse, she tried to talk other people out of taking meds. She couldn’t get her story straight, either. She claimed this “metabolic” diet with no white sugar (but honey was OK), no white flour, & megavitamins kept you healthy even if you had HIV, but HIV didn’t cause AIDS (if HIV didn’t cause AIDS, why did you need all the fancy diets?)

I knew she was going to die young, and as much as I hated myself for wishing death on anyone, I kept hoping that since she was bound to die young anyway, she died of an AIDS-related illness, and didn’t happen to get hit by a bus or something. Sure enough, she died of AIDS pneumonia in her early 30s. And at a time when most people weren’t dying of such things, but drugs were giving most people with HIV an indeterminate life-expectancy, but much longer than five years from diagnosis.

Thank gawd she didn’t have children.

I knew of another person with AIDS (interpreted for him once) I wasn’t terribly sad to see go. He became HIV+ in the 80s through the gay male sex, and after diagnosis, had some kind of “epiphany,” and decided that he was straight, and accepted Jesus, and believed AIDS was his punishment for his homosexual behavior. He used to travel around to different fundie churches, lecturing on what a terrible sinner he had been, and how he was now experiencing divine retribution. This is how he supported himself until he was too sick to travel and had to move in with his parents. He had some pretty good savings by then, though, because the churches always passed the hat when he was there, and got donations for him. They even had him speaking to youth groups doing a more literal form of “scared straight.”

He had even found some woman at one of the fundie churches to marry him, though who knows if they were having sex. She was always telling people that she had had AIDS tests, and they were always negative, as though that somehow proved that their sex was the “right” sex. I personally think either someone was lying, or he learned his lesson about condoms. Or maybe they just weren’t having sex, since she never actually said they were.

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I would love a cite for this, given the Jewish concept of hell is nothing like the Christian one. Hell is not a place of eternal punishment. I’ve never heard such a thing, so color me curious where you got this fact.

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It’s not totally cut & dry about Jewish Hell being eternal. It’s probably a minority view among Jews who do believe in Gehinnom, but it is there. However, most modern Jewish “Hellology” does result in the snuffing out or the rehabilitation of the wicked.

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Yes, a former boss at work who screwed me out of a promotion. There are several people like that whom I will cheer news of their passing, he’s just the only one to actually have died.

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True- but I think the post I quoted about wishing “hell” on murderers and atheists envisioned an eternal damnation type of hell. Plus, given the virtually zero commentary on the Jewish concept of hell in the Torah etc, I’d love to see a cite about where it says specifically who a Jewish person can wish hell on.

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Still don’t feel guilty. Still wish she had suffered much longer. Still owe her grave a present.

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It is part of a wider system of belief – not so much Law. Under normal circumstances it is very bad to wish death or divine punishment on anyone. It is not only a sin but it brings very bad luck.

Death is a very tragic and serious subject. No comedies about Afterlife exist in Jewish sources similar to Dante’s Divine Comedy.

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Dang, Earl, it’s been 7 years and you still haven’t given a sh*t?

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Sadly, no one I really want to die has yet.