In the law this is known as the theory of “clean hands.” The illegal immigrants know they are guilty of violation of a law, which is why they “sneak around.” They have made their bed and they can jolly well lie in it; they were not “forced” into this situation.
I will never call the police again barring a life or death emergency, due to a couple very bad experiences where calling to report something like a dumped stolen car in the cul de saq got the police not only accusing me of stealing it but insinuating I had committed other crimes.
No thank you sir!
Huh yea? Try this:
Call non emergency line to report loud party at 3am.
(cop knocking on door)
Me:hello
Cop:You called about a party?
Me:Yes about an hour ago, which has since split up.
Cop:Do you have any ID?
Me:Why is that of any matter?
Cop:Is anyone else inside? Can I come inside? What are you doing up at this time of night anyway in this area? Do I smell drugs?
Blah blah blah, totally not worth it! And no there were no drugs to smell, no one even smoked cigs inside.:smack:
As a general rule I don’t speak to cops.
I did call around 7 years ago when my car was broken into in my drive way. After calling the wrong city at first and finally realizing there wasn’t anything they were going to do or really could do, I just hung up.
EVERYONE breaks the law. You’ve probably committed a felony today. To me, there is no reason that “illegal aliens” are treated any differently than the 300 million or so other law breakers in our country. It’s ridiculous and obvious…
Well, which is it–positive or probable? I would not want to use your argument if I were prosecuting someone! Besides, it sounds as though you are alluding to Romans 3:23.
I don’t know about you, dougie, but this constant allusion to Romans 3:23 really pisses me off. :mad:
IANAL, but I believe the “clean hands” doctrine has to do with plaintiffs bringing lawsuits: a plaintiff may not win a suit if he or she is involved in something illegal related to the claim. For example, someone who is fencing stolen property can’t win against a customer who bounced a check in payment for that property. The clean hands doctrine doesn’t apply to criminal law, as far as I know - the fact that someone has broken a law doesn’t mean that person can’t be the victim of a crime. So just because someone has entered the country illegally doesn’t mean someone can rob him (for example) and get away with it.
Constant?
Well, I agree with you there; No robber should rely on that as a defense! Talk about not having clean hands…
Don’t feign ignorance. If we’re both reading these boards, we’re both seeing it.
I’m not feigning anything. I had to consult my concordance to get the citation. Why not run it through the search engine?
A few times, not 911 though.
When we lived in an area that was going through gentrification , it still was a prostitute stroll. I was up and heard a glass break, looked out the window, a man was naked putting his pants on. He had been ‘serviced’ in the back of a panel van. I called the non emergency number. Because we lived close to the state capitol building we got the city and capital police. No arrests.
Called on dogs left in hot cars numerous times.
In Qatar, I was hit buy a semi truck. Called the Qatari police. That was fun,( not)
Ezekiel 25:17, my good man. Enough said.
Color me unsophisticated, but I fail to see the connection.
I think it depends on where you live. Some places don’t publicize a non-emergency contact number for the police, in which case I think it’s reasonable to call 911 for something requiring a non-emergency response. Things like “I’ve been waiting forever at McDonalds” and “my kids is talking back” and “My phone is out of credit” are strictly your own problem, though.
I’ve called 911 three times. The first time, I was a teenager home alone for the weekend and someone tried to break into the house (failing, and apparently getting scared off when our ancient dog finally woke up). The second time, someone tried to mug my roommate right outside our apartment and succeeded in getting hit in the face and spilling his beer. The third time I witnessed a low-speed hit-and-run on the interstate.
A few days after the third event, someone called 911 on me, when a series of embarrassing events led a gas station attendant to believe I was possibly drunk and definitely driving a stolen car.
Several times, but mostly in the course of work in the bar and hotel business. At one point, I had an undercover narcotics agent “casing” a client, whom I knew was selling drugs from his room, and possibly manufacturing them in said room. (The CNT agent never was able to pin him down, because the guy was considered low-priority for surveillance. A few weeks later, though, the dealer was arrested for some little minor stuff - kidnapping another dealer and that dealer’s kid, shooting at a federal law enforcement officer, etc.)
Another night, I spotted lights on at a fast food restaurant across the road from my property - divided 4-lane with a wide median, so I couldn’t really see what was going on, but I couldn’t see anyone inside the restaurant. I knew that the lights shouldn’t have been on so late - BK closed at 11, and the dim, interior-only lights that stayed on while the crew closed and cleaned were still on at 1:30 am. I tried to call the non-emergency #, but it turns out that it was only manned during business hours, so I was redirected to call 911 via a recording. I felt like a bit of an idiot, explaining the situation to the dispatcher (“I don’t see anything, except lights, but those lights shouldn’t be on…”) Turns out that there was a robbery - inside job/former employee - and the closing crew was locked in the cooler. I felt like less of an idiot after that!
Most recently, I filed a police report after my elderly neighbor deliberately cut our phone/internet cable at the box over Memorial Day weekend.
In Pittsburgh, 911 is your only choice if you want to see a police officer; they pulled the “local numbers” of the different zone offices out of the phone book years ago. As a result you get everything from “there is a stray dog wandering the neighborhood” to “my neighbor just got shot several times”
I’ve called the cops (911) several times for cars blocking my garage. Once upon a time I would have considered knocking on some doors and trying to find the owner. But since this one guy once opened his door shotgun in hand I figure the car getting a ticket and/or towed gets the message across better. Before there were a lot of “repeat offenders” ------ now no repeaters at all.
You have to wonder what people are thinking when they block a driveway/garage.
There was plenty parking on my side of the street ad everybody had big driveways. I could fit 10 cars in mine easily. Across the street was the projects so most of those people didn’t have cars.
Yet it never failed, I’d walk out of my house to an almost empty street and somebody would be parked across my driveway.
I so wanted to get a tank and hang a big sign on it saying
PLEASE DON’T BLOCK THE DRIVEWAY
How do you “call the police” on an Illegal alien, they don’t wear a sign or anything, they look just like anyone else.:dubious: