# Have you ever heard of Logan's Run? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 22, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616 "2016-08-22T12:13:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/61 "2016-08-22T16:05:59Z")
I’m 60. I have seen the film. I would not describe it as “classic” in any sense of the word. Haven’t read the book(s). Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/62 "2016-08-22T16:08:13Z")
I don’t believe the people who made the movie ever acknowledged this but there were actually two sources for the movie. The official one was the novel. The unofficial one was a 1971 British SF movie titled _Glen and Randa_. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/63 "2016-08-22T16:10:56Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t believe the people who made the movie ever acknowledged this but there were actually two sources for the movie. The official one was the novel. The unofficial one was a 1971 British SF movie titled _Glen and Randa_. (Asking genially) Any kind of a cite for that? I’ve never heard it before. A glance at the synopsis shows a pretty thin connection, similar to many stories of the era and before. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/64 "2016-08-22T16:17:38Z")
Following up on the Farrah connection, I find it amusing that 1976 was her breakout year in all respects. (I was trying to figure out how I, as an official horny teen, had never seen or heard of her before LR.) Nearly all TV and minor film appearances before then. Hilariously, she played three different roles on hubby’s _Six Million Dollar Man_… talk about your generic pretty blonde. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/65 "2016-08-22T16:30:34Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I remember both. I was surprised at the date given in the OP because I’m reasonably sure I wouldn’t have remembered it at that age… the movie is from 1976. > > There’s a slew of “trapped in a dome and people above age X die” series on Netflix right now, they made me think of Logan’s Run. Yeah, I even Googled for the date and still got It wrong. It was 1976. :o ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/66 "2016-08-22T16:37:55Z")
I’ve seen it a number of times. I think calling it a ‘classic’ is a bit of a stretch, but it is a great example of pre-Star Wars 1970’s sci-fi. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/67 "2016-08-22T16:46:57Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Nearly all TV and minor film appearances before then. Hilariously, she played three different roles on hubby’s _Six Million Dollar Man_… talk about your generic pretty blonde. Hey, at least her husband was trying to be supportive of her having a career - that is a far from universal sentiment even these days, much less in the 1970’s. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/68 "2016-08-22T16:54:57Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Following up on the Farrah connection, I find it amusing that 1976 was her breakout year in all respects. (I was trying to figure out how I, as an official horny teen, had never seen or heard of her before LR.) > > Nearly all TV and minor film appearances before then. Hilariously, she played three different roles on hubby’s _Six Million Dollar Man_… talk about your generic pretty blonde. She had a couple of “breakouts” in Myra Breckinridge (1970 IIRC - one of those minor roles you mentioned), but I never saw that flick until years after Farrah was a household name. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/69 "2016-08-22T17:01:30Z")
Read the book and saw the film on TV in my youth. Hasn’t aged well but certainly influential for its time. There’s a Logan’s Run dream sequence in the movie Free Enterprise that one of the main characters has the night before his 30th birthday, quite entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/70 "2016-08-22T17:07:50Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I’ve seen it a number of times. I think calling it a ‘classic’ is a bit of a stretch, but it is a great example of pre-Star Wars 1970’s sci-fi. I saw it in the theater when it first came out (I was 13) and had read both books (_Logan’s Run_ and _Logan’s World_) and watched the show when it ran. Like many who posted here I enjoyed the film and of course, as a young teen I **really** appreciated Jenny Agutter 🙂 I’m sure for many seeing it for the first time many years after it premiered, it’s easy to poke fun at it, but you gotta remember after **2001: A Space Odyssey** (1968) and before **Star Wars** (1977) there were _ **very few** _ big budget science fiction films released on the big screen. I know anyone under 30 may find that hard to understand, but studios generally stayed clear of science fiction. During that nine year span besides _Logan’s Run_ we had _Silent Running_ and the five _Planet of the Apes_ films there wasn’t much else in that genre to see. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/71 "2016-08-22T17:08:40Z")
Yes, of course. I read the books. Don’t think I saw the movie or tv show. My parents probably wouldn’t let me stay up or something. Might go look for them now. They sound like the pinnacle of movie making! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/72 "2016-08-22T17:16:48Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Heck, I still have the seven issues of the comic book Marvel produced from it. George Perez did the artwork - I think - and it ended on a cliffhanger. Yeah, that was some nice early Perez artwork. Of course I found out years later that Marvel had lost the rights to continue the series and like you said, right in the middle of a story! ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/73 "2016-08-22T17:22:53Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Yes, of course. > > I read the books. Don’t think I saw the movie or tv show. My parents probably wouldn’t let me stay up or something. **Logan’s Run** was part of the 1977/78 CBS Friday night lineup. (all times EST) 8:00 PM - The New Adventures of Wonder Woman **9:00 PM - Logan’s Run** 10:00 PM - Switch (this was a drama featuring an ex cop and a former con man) They canceled Logan’s Run in mid season, just 14 episodes, and for awhile replaced it and Switch with movies. Eventually, they replaced that 9 o’clock hour with… … **The Incredible Hulk**. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/74 "2016-08-22T17:27:18Z")
> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#): > > I know anyone under 30 may find that hard to understand, but studios generally stayed clear of science fiction. During that nine year span besides _Logan’s Run_ we had _Silent Running_ and the five _Planet of the Apes_ films there wasn’t much else in that genre to see. I’ve been in some extended discussions with knowledgeable classic/film sf types (Worldcon panels, etc.) where I successfully advanced the theory that\* Logan’s Ru_n was the last (big-budget) sf from the studio cheese factories, and just months later_ Star Wars\* kicked open the gates of the modern sf film era. EVERYTHING changed in that transition. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/75 "2016-08-22T17:32:57Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > I’ve been in some extended discussions with knowledgeable classic/film sf types (Worldcon panels, etc.) where I successfully advanced the theory that\* Logan’s Ru_n was the last (big-budget) sf from the studio cheese factories, and just months later_ Star Wars\* kicked open the gates of the modern sf film era. EVERYTHING changed in that transition. You’re partially right. Yes, _Star Wars_ did open the door for a **TON** of science fiction films (films like **Battle Beyond the Stars** would probably never been green lit and few remember the **Buck Rogers** TV series premiered in the theaters) but it was **Jaws** , in 1975 that started the summer block buster season, enabling Star Wars to take advantage of it. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/76 "2016-08-22T17:40:24Z")
> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#): > > You’re partially right. Yes, _Star Wars_ did open the door for a **TON** of science fiction films (films like **Battle Beyond the Stars** would probably never been green lit and few remember the **Buck Rogers** TV series premiered in the theaters) but it was **Jaws** , in 1975 that started the summer block buster season, enabling Star Wars to take advantage of it. But Jaws wasn’t sf (not more than a smidgen). I meant the drastic sea change between shiny, perfect-future studio imagings and the gritty, realistic, real-people-in-the-future vibe of SW. The 50’s plastic look disappeared from studio sf almost instantly. The comparison was lampshaded beautifully in _Demolition Man_ twenty years later. ETA: Certainly a number of factors including the Jaws tentpole contributed to SW’s success. It ran for 13 months in one local theater, and just possibly that would not have happened if not for the financial success of Jaws. ---
**Author:** ![Shearer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Shearer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shearer)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/77 "2016-08-22T17:43:27Z")
Yes. Haven’t seen it. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/78 "2016-08-22T17:48:18Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > But Jaws wasn’t sf (not more than a smidgen). I meant the drastic sea change between shiny, perfect-future studio imagings and the gritty, realistic, real-people-in-the-future vibe of SW. The 50’s plastic look disappeared from studio sf almost instantly. > > The comparison was lampshaded beautifully in _Demolition Man_ twenty years later. Yeah, but if it wasn’t for the phenomenal success of **Jaws** in the box office, a film that prompted second viewings, **Star Wars** may have never had it’s opportunity to be a summer blockbuster. Before _Jaws_ films didn’t open on the same date everywhere in the country at the same time. In the summer they’d open a film in a couple cities, see how it does then open in other cities (and for many of them, open in Drive In theaters only). When studios saw a sic-fi film make a ton at the box office, especially movie goers who kept coming back (which led to more ticket sales) they “discovered” that science fiction had a paying audience. And the rest, as they say, is history… ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/79 "2016-08-22T18:04:21Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > We’re buggering the planet but you can whip out your phone and dial up a sex date. Fucking prophetic. That was actually one of the most slyly subversive scenes in the movie. Sure, naked York butt and Agutter. But when he’s dialing the transporter through sex options, one of them _is a man_ who sort of stands there giving him the lookover until Michael York flips to another sextransporter channel in annoyance. For the era, implying that gay sex might be accepted (even if not by the protagonist) was a bit startling. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/80 "2016-08-22T18:14:04Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > That was actually one of the most slyly subversive scenes in the movie. Sure, naked York butt and Agutter. But when he’s dialing the transporter through sex options, one of them _is a man_ who sort of stands there giving him the lookover until Michael York flips to another sextransporter channel in annoyance. > > For the era, implying that gay sex might be accepted (even if not by the protagonist) was a bit startling. Yeah, he clearly considered it for a moment. But, to be honest, he was right to move on to Jennie. And when he didn’t get a yes from her he asked, rather innocently, if she preferred women. Implying that that was common as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616.md?page=5)