# Have you ever heard of Logan's Run?

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**Created:** [August 22, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616 "2016-08-22T12:13:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/81 "2016-08-22T18:21:30Z")

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I own the movie on BR. I saw the 2 hour TV movie that began the series and watched every episode when it aired. I own all 3 books and have read them multiple times.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I remember the movie. The original release was R rated, I think everything available now is the PG version which has perhaps the slightest of cuts.

I don’t think this is correct; AFAIK [the movie was only released as PG](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg#certification). Do you have a cite?

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/82 "2016-08-22T18:28:23Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> That was actually one of the most slyly subversive scenes in the movie. Sure, naked York butt and Agutter. But when he’s dialing the transporter through sex options, one of them _is a man_ who sort of stands there giving him the lookover until Michael York flips to another sextransporter channel in annoyance.
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> For the era, implying that gay sex might be accepted (even if not by the protagonist) was a bit startling.

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> Yeah, he clearly considered it for a moment. But, to be honest, he was right to move on to Jennie. And when he didn’t get a yes from her he asked, rather innocently, if she preferred women. Implying that that was common as well.

Wasn’t lost on me. Up 'til then, same-sex attraction was a mental illness and a quick ride to hell. In the future, it’s no big deal. I totally brought that up with mom. I still can’t believe she didn’t know I was gay 'til I came out to her at age 30.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/83 "2016-08-22T18:34:46Z")

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I was aware that there was a sci-fi movie named Logan’s Run. I didn’t know what the plot/topic was.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/84 "2016-08-22T18:53:13Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I don’t think this is correct; AFAIK [the movie was only released as PG](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg#certification). Do you have a cite?

It must have been PG. My cite? My Mom let my brother and me go see it and there’s no way she would have let us go to an R-rated movie.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/85 "2016-08-22T18:59:13Z")

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logans run was a part of mgms late 60’s early 70’s sci fi renaissance along with westworld rollerball…and a couple oif others…

when turner himself owned tnt they used ot have mgm sci-fi weekend and those were among the first 3 or 4 that they’d show and they even had the series on for a bit too

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/86 "2016-08-22T19:13:09Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> (Asking genially) Any kind of a cite for that? I’ve never heard it before.
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> A glance at the synopsis shows a pretty thin connection, similar to many stories of the era and before.

I can’t really provide a cite. As I wrote, the makers of _Logan’s Run_ never acknowledged the similarities. And the makers of _Glen and Randa_ didn’t file a lawsuit.

But I’ve seen both movies and the similarities are too much to be a mere coincidence. It also helps to have read the book. There’s a lot of differences between the movie and the book version of _Logan’s Run_. And pretty much everything that’s in the movie version of _Logan’s Run_ and isn’t in the book, is in _Glen and Randa_. In fact when I first saw _Glen and Randa_ I thought it was a cheap ripoff of _Logan’s Run_ - until I found out it had been made five years earlier.

I’ll admit now that I did screw up in my previous post. For some reason I thought _Glen and Randa_ was a British movie. It’s American.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/87 "2016-08-22T19:16:55Z")

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Are you kidding? I still lust after Jenny Agutter.

Macavity, Macavity, there’s no one like Macavity  
There never was a cat of such deceitfulness and suavity…

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/88 "2016-08-22T19:18:21Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’ll admit now that I did screw up in my previous post. For some reason I thought _Glen and Randa_ was a British movie. It’s American.

I’ll have to chase it down. Sounds like the kind of thing that’s either on Netflix or Hulu’s back list - or not available at all.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/89 "2016-08-22T19:20:03Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I own the movie on BR. I saw the 2 hour TV movie that began the series and watched every episode when it aired. I own all 3 books and have read them multiple times.I don’t think this is correct; AFAIK [the movie was only released as PG](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg#certification). Do you have a cite?

And what about the other ending, where Farrah’s character shows up in the classroom at the end?

\<GD&R\>

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/90 "2016-08-22T19:20:50Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> And what about the other ending, where Farrah’s character shows up in the classroom at the end?
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> \<GD&R\>

No. You did not.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/91 "2016-08-22T19:25:25Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> And what about the other ending, where Farrah’s character shows up in the classroom at the end?
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> \<GD&R\>

Geeze, how many times do we have to have these threads?

You’re confusing LR with Glen and Randa. A totally different movie!

🙂

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/92 "2016-08-22T19:30:06Z")

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Just gotta say I love this place sometimes.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/93 "2016-08-22T19:30:59Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Are you kidding? Like my little-kid mind would forget flashes of naked Jenny Agutter?!

Didn’t care for the movie, but I cared for that part. Age 16.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/94 "2016-08-22T19:32:34Z")

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> [@Miss\_Mapp](#):
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> No, that’s what I recall too. I think casting the movie forced them to move the age up.

Yep, 21 in the books. And in at least one of those “dome” series I mentioned in my previous post, people die when they turn 22.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/95 "2016-08-22T19:35:31Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> There were several sequel books to the original, which I never read.

If the first book is interesting and decent ( that is an interesting concept backed by just okay writing ), the second is lesser but okay. The third is execrable IMHO.

> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> It was an okay read for the time, very much in the vein of the plethora of “New Wave Lite” writers and books about how Pollution and Eco-Disaster and the Youth Explosion and Computers and Drugs were going to be the End of Us All.

An excellent description, I’d say. But it has a much more elaborate world than the movie, by an order of magnitude. If that if for no other reason, I could see it making for an interesting remake. Though they probably would have to keep the expanded age 30 cutoff for both practical and logical in-story reasons.

Oh and like so many others Jenny Agutter was my first…_something_. I was prepubescent at the time, but that scene fascinated.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/96 "2016-08-22T19:46:53Z")

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Speaking of age, 30 was the new 21, and these days, 40 is the new 30. If they take the age back to 21, it’s YA fiction. Take the age up to 40.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/97 "2016-08-22T19:48:04Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> But it has a much more elaborate world than the movie, by an order of magnitude. If that if for no other reason, I could see it making for an interesting remake. Though they probably would have to keep the expanded age 30 cutoff for both practical and logical in-story reasons.

The scene that comes to mind, for no good reason, is when the ‘biker gang’ on flying jet broomsticks catches up with the pair - “Footfella, hey!” has stuck in my mental vocabulary for decades now.

> [@](#):
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> Oh and like so many others Jenny Agutter was my first…_something_. I was prepubescent at the time, but that scene fascinated.

Spider Robinson wrote a short story where a ten-year-old boy gets a good look at a topless (and unconscious) woman. The adult with him makes a scornful remark that he can’t possibly be old enough to be interested, and he replies, “Yeah, but in a few years I think I’m going to want to remember this.” 🙂

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Yes, in fact it is sitting on my DVR right now for a rewatch (it was on TCM a few weeks ago).

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I’m 49 and I saw the movie many times. Since we got cable in my area pretty early and despite our lower middle class status we had HBO in 1976. I probably saw the uncut version multiple times. And then I also watched the TV show. Never read the books.

I just looked it up, I remembered very clearly who was in the movie but didn’t remember at all that Gregory Harrison was the star of the TV show.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-heard-of-logans-run/763616/100 "2016-08-22T20:17:33Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Speaking of age, 30 was the new 21, and these days, 40 is the new 30. If they take the age back to 21, it’s YA fiction. Take the age up to 40.

Also of note was that at the time of its release, 30 was becoming a much more significant to those boomers born in in '46.

A few years ago I watched LR with a friend and we wondered about Richard Jordan and what else he’d been in. We drew a blank, but the very next night we put in Lynchs _Dune_ and there he was: Duncan Idaho! Total coincidence.

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