# Have you ever seen an actor who never made a good film?

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**Created:** [March 22, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-seen-an-actor-who-never-made-a-good-film/999203 "2024-03-22T13:35:44Z")\
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Brian Dennehy has been in some great movies, in great roles. He was the police chief in **First Blood** which was an excellent movie. He was a aheriff who was an ex-Buddy of Kris Klein in **Silverado** in a standout role in a movie full of scene-stealers. He also co-starred in the **Coccoon** movies.

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Kris Klein in **Silverado**

Kevin Kline.

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Right. Sorry, Kev.

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> [@BrickBat](#):
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> I’m not saying these actors aren’t commercially successful; just that I don’t care for most of the films they’re “big” in.

So you’re claiming _First Blood_ and _Cocoon_ were not good movies?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
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Not to mention _Presumed Innocent_ — which, granted, was built around Harrison Ford, but (a) it’s a good flick, and (b) Dennehy gets it right.

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Cocoon was interesting, but it was a long long time ago since I’ve seen it. I didn’t care for _First Blood_: schlocky.

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**F/X** was an excellent movie.

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He was in “Gettysburg”, which I thought was pretty good.

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Are we all just going to pretend that Tom Arnold movies don’t exist? Because if they do, he has to be a top contender.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
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Even Tom Arnold has Trues Lies. Just a supporting actor, but a major supporting actor. It was a good film and he did a competent job in it. Rotten Tomatoes 71%/76%.

Overall Tom Arnold is terrible, but he has that one good role.

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> Are we all just going to pretend that Tom Arnold movies don’t exist?

I don’t care for him at all. But, he had a significant role as Schwarzenegger’s partner in _True Lies_, and that’s an excellent movie for its genre, IMO.

_Edit: I’m slower than @What_Exit_. 😃

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Even Tom Arnold has Trues Lies. Just a supporting actor, but a major supporting actor. It was a good film and he did a competent job in it.

In fact, I contend he was brilliant [in this scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKMSYuzDp5E&ab_channel=NostalgiaofFury) when Arnold thinks his wife is having an affair.

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It’s a fair cop. I forgot about him being in True Lies. He did do a good job in that movie.

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And to be fair, I can’t think of any other time he wasn’t terrible.

Even Jim Belushi has a few exceptions, Tom Arnold has only the one I’m aware of.

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Well, it’s not hard to find bad actors who have never been in a good movie, but who would be the best actor to never have been in a good or great movie?

Bryan Cranston has made a few movies, but nothing has come close to his work in Breaking Bad.

What has Liam Neeson done? The ‘Taken’ movies, which are formula thrillers. He’s considered a very good actor.

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> What has Liam Neeson done? The ‘Taken’ movies, which are formula thrillers. He’s considered a very good actor.

Ummm…he was nominated for an Oscar for the lead role in _Schindler’s List_, which was ranked #9 by the American Film Institute on their “[100 Years…100 Movies](https://www.afi.com/afis-100-years-100-movies/)” list of the greatest American movies of all time.

A few other theatrical movies in which Neeson had significant roles, which were very well-received:

- The LEGO Movie (87% positive audience score on Rotten Tomatoes)
- Gangs of New York (81%)
- Michael Collins (84%)

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Ummm…he was nominated for an Oscar for the lead role in _Schindler’s List_, which was ranked #9 by the American Film Institute on their “[100 Years…100 Movies](https://www.afi.com/afis-100-years-100-movies/)” list of the greatest American movies of all time.

Yes, this, at very least blows a giant hole in that statement quoted.

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Ummm…he was nominated for an Oscar for the lead role in _Schindler’s List_.

And Bryan Cranston was nominated for an Academy Award for _Trumbo_.

But neither of these count. This is not “never appeared in a good movie”, but “never appeared in a movie I saw and consider good”, as far as I can tell from the actors that have been named so far. Their overall career and the crtical standing of the movies they have appeared in is irrelevant.

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Liam was great in his small role in Ted 2.

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Liam was great in his small role in Ted 2

Even better than he was in _Schindler’s List_? 😉

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