# Have you ever seen an actor who never made a good film?

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**Created:** [March 22, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-seen-an-actor-who-never-made-a-good-film/999203 "2024-03-22T13:35:44Z")\
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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> Yahoo Serious

He’s made a grand total of three films (and I found _Young Einstein_ to be exceptionally silly, but fun anyway). So, I suppose he technically qualifies, but he has a very small body of work, compared to most of the others being discussed.

FWIW, in all three of the films in which he starred, he was also the writer, director, and producer. So, if they were bad, he certainly only had himself to blame. 😉

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Also, Roxanne, Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid, Pennies From Heaven, The Three Amigos, The Man With Two Brains, Bowfinger, Grand Canyon, All Of Me and Little Shop Of Horrors.

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And Leap of Faith. Which also had Liam Neeson in it.

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Don’t forget _The Jerk_. Thoroughly enjoyable.

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I quite liked _The Spanish Prisoner_ (which I see has a pretty danged high score on Rotten Tomatoes).

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> [@SlipperyPete](#):
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> Jennifer Lopez

She was quite good in _Out of Sight,_ and it was a very good movie. Elmore Leonard, just sayin’.

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Seriously! Yahoo! Somebody beat me to it!

In Defense of Elvis, yes, the movies sucked, but they were King Shit back in the Day. Doesn’t qualify.

Otherwise, I’d nominate Charles Chaplin. Utter shite! (But see above, about Elvis)

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> [@Kron](#):
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> And when you want both, you watch _Demolition Man_, one of the cinematic masterpieces of the 20th Century.

Or you could end up watching _Judge Dredd_, which is utter shit.

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Even Jim Belushi has a few exceptions, Tom Arnold has only the one I’m aware of.

He was fine in _Nine Months_, which was a perfectly fine rom-com regardless of what the critics or Hugh Grant think.

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> SlipperyPete  
> BrickBat  
> Mar 23

> Tommy Lee Jones? From The Fugitive and No Country for Old Men? That Tommy Lee Jones??

Not to mention _Coal Miner’s Daughter._

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I actually think Tommy Lee Jones is an excellent actor and has been in a lot of good films. _[Cobb](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cobb)_ was one of the first that came to my mind, but it is only a 65%/58%.

He was outstanding in _Captain America: The First Avenger_ with a 805/75% rating.

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Otherwise, I’d nominate Charles Chaplin. Utter shite! (But see above, about Elvis)

Charlie Chaplin? Charlie Chaplin? Charlie Chaplin of _The Gold Rush_, _Modern Times_, _City Lights_, and _The Great Dictator_? Recipient of not one, but two honorary Academy Awards for " versatility and genius in acting, writing, directing, and producing _The Circus_" and “the incalculable effect he has had in making motion pictures the art form of this century”.

OK- this thread has officially transitioned into what in the NBA is called “garbage time”.

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John Cazale

_ducks and runs_

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> John Cazale

With the Deer Hunter as his lowest rated movie, I suspect he has the highest average of all actors with more than 1 movie.

> **[John Cazale](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/john_cazale)**
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> Explore the filmography of John Cazale on Rotten Tomatoes! Discover ratings, reviews, and more. Click for details!

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Unbelievable.

We’re what - 131 posts in?

Udo Kier?

(ok _maybe_ I’ll grant “The End of Violence” and the Danish “The Kingdom”. Other than that, though)

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I know he was around forever and not a good actor, but wasn’t he in _Suspiria_original?

My guess is he has a dozen or more good movies where he was probably a weak part of the movie.

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> C. Thomas Howell. Soul Man had some redeeming qualities. That’s it.

_The Hitcher_. Granted, Rutger Hauer did most of the heavy lifting, but Howell was good as the young driver tormented by Hauer’s psychopathic killer.

> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> Gwyneth Paltrow. Mom is Blythe Danner, dad is producer/director Bruce Danner. Cousin to senators Gabby Giffords and Mike Kelly. Her godfather is Steven Spielberg for Christ sake!. There is more.
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> No talent ass clown who’s most convincing roll was when her head was cut off and pulled out of a box in the movie, Se7en.

Disagree. She was very good in _Shakespeare In Love_ and _Sliding Doors._ Furthermore, she’s one of the few American actors whose English accent is good enough to fool Brits. I mean yeah, all her Goop stuff is ridiculous woo, but she’s a competent-to-good actor.

ETA: Ninja’d by @DrDeth. I’d forgotten she won an Oscar for _Shakespeare In Love._

My nominee: Katharine Heigl. She’s made some “okay” movies, like _Knocked Up_, but has she ever made a really _good_ one?

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I’m blown away I’d ever hear a [reference](https://botch.bandcamp.com/track/c-thomas-howell-as-the-soul-man-3) to that again.  
Has Stacey Keach been mentioned yet?

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Udo Kier?

He was very good starring in _Swan Song_ (2021)

Critics said: “Udo Kier’s layered performance lends _Swan Song_ a nuance and poignancy that offset its potentially outlandish story.”

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But accordiong to the OP, it’s films, and I myself FWIW am not the hugest fan of sentimentally warm clone films.

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