# Have you experienced the Mandela Effect? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 19, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190 "2018-07-19T10:52:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/21 "2018-07-20T03:28:06Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Queen does sing “we are the champions…of the world!” in the first time through. Just because it doesn’t END that way is a micro nit. And he does sing it at the end in many other versions than the album/studio version. > [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Please see the ending to the movie “14 Going on 30” to see if that matches your memory. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6783tkwbZw0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6783tkwbZw0) Think you got whooshed just there. ---
**Author:** ![KellyCriterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@KellyCriterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyCriterion)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/22 "2018-07-20T05:06:24Z")
The Disney Tinkerbell one is just extraordinary. Anyone who remembers this remembers that she flies in and taps her wand on the top of the Disney castle, right? … right? > [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > I think we mentally put a monocle on Uncle Pennybags because we’re conflating him with Mr. Peanut. Nup. Never heard of nor seen Mr Peanut, and I got a bit ME with Monopoly Guy’s monocle. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/23 "2018-07-20T05:19:35Z")
What’s the question about Tinkerbell? Here she is: [https://youtu.be/dSDz2UeZmhg](https://youtu.be/dSDz2UeZmhg) ---
**Author:** ![KellyCriterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@KellyCriterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyCriterion)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/24 "2018-07-20T05:33:57Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > What’s the question about Tinkerbell? Here she is: [https://youtu.be/dSDz2UeZmhg](https://youtu.be/dSDz2UeZmhg) Oh, thanks for posting! That’s very close to what I remember. There was [a whole Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/5jvjx7/disney_opening_with_tinkerbell_found/?st=jjtjo6ws&sh=d84d9e79) about this one that looks to have been updated. No wonder this ‘ME’ was so extraordinary to me! ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/25 "2018-07-20T10:36:38Z")
After looking around for this topic, I saw this [Reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/8zxxeb/to_celebrate_nelson_mandelas_birthday/) on the Mandela Effect for Mandela’s birthday also. There’s an entire [subReddit on the Mandela Effect.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/) Some examples in that post include: (He listed these as personal to him) -Cotton Gin inventor Eli Whitney is black -Pokemon creature named Onyx -Lindburgh baby kidnapping on March 01, 1932, body never found, spelled “bUrgh” -Tiananmen Square “Tank man” being run over by the tank on June 05, 1989 -Henry VIII painting-portrait holding a turkey leg -Tom Cruise wears a white shirt and sunglasses in his underwear-dance scene below the stairs in the movie Risky Business > [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > I started out in a universe where Bison had gone extinct. At some point, I don’t know when exactly, I crossed over to one where you can buy Bison meat at the grocery store. That is so weird. Even after reading the [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_bison)and learning that they were only “almost” extinct, it’s still strange to think that those two events go together. Thanks for posting that. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/26 "2018-07-20T12:08:34Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > I started out in a universe where Bison had gone extinct. At some point, I don’t know when exactly, I crossed over to one where you can buy Bison meat at the grocery store. I wonder if you thought this because there’s a Star Trek episode that says they are extinct but it was meant to be a piece of fictional “Future History” like how Star Trek IV says Humpback Whales were extinct when they aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/27 "2018-07-20T21:19:11Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Sally Fields did say “Life is a box of chocolates, Forrest.” The Mandela Effect strikes again - in THIS timeline, her name is Sally Field. ---
**Author:** ![Dahu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahu/32/3416_2.png) [@Dahu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahu)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/28 "2018-07-20T22:38:26Z")
> [@Cumberdale](#): > > Moonraker. I definitely recall the scene where Jaws smiles at the girl and she smiles back and has braces which brought them together. A few years ago I re-watched all the Bond films and when I got to Moonraker, the girl didn’t have braces. I was like WTF. Don’t know what you saw recently but I definitely remember the scene with the girl having braces. I think the “Mandela effect” was made up (who really remembers Mandela’s funeral in the 80’s?). I’m now going to watch Moonraker… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/29 "2018-07-20T22:46:54Z")
> [@Dahu](#): > > Don’t know what you saw recently but I definitely remember the scene with the girl having braces. I think the “Mandela effect” was made up (who really remembers Mandela’s funeral in the 80’s?). > > I’m now going to watch Moonraker… :dubious: [This clip at 2’20"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MdAw_f5pAU)-sorry, no braces. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/30 "2018-07-21T01:31:46Z")
Re _The Berenstain Bears_: names that end in “-stein”, like “Einstein” and “Goldstein” and “Frankenstein” are common; names that end in “-stain” are not. Given that people who cite the _The Berenstain Bears_ as an example of the Mandela Effect are _adults_, remembering a series of books they read as _children_, faulty memory is a much more plausible explanation for the phenomenon. Or so it seems to me. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/31 "2018-07-21T01:38:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > [This clip at 2’20"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MdAw_f5pAU)-sorry, no braces. I haven’t seen the movie in years, and don’t remember what I originally saw. But reviewing that scene in the link, it seems to me that the scene would have been much better if the girl did have braces. It would have been funny that way. As it stands, it’s just kind of bizarre and puzzling why she and Jaws connected like that. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/32 "2018-07-21T03:04:31Z")
> [@Dahu](#): > > Don’t know what you saw recently but I definitely remember the scene with the girl having braces. I think the “Mandela effect” was made up (who really remembers Mandela’s funeral in the 80’s?). > > I’m now going to watch Moonraker… :dubious: Huh. That’s an interesting one. I, too, would have sworn there were braces in that scene but, alas, no. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/33 "2018-07-21T03:45:40Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > The Newlywed Game’s “In the butt, Bob” 🙂 That actually happened — [https://youtu.be/4XM5hbS7GlU](https://youtu.be/4XM5hbS7GlU) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/34 "2018-07-21T06:00:23Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > -Tom Cruise wears a white shirt and sunglasses in his underwear-dance scene below the stairs in the movie Risky Business Wait, how can there be no sunglasses? That’s like dividing by zero! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/35 "2018-07-21T07:35:41Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > That actually happened — [https://youtu.be/4XM5hbS7GlU](https://youtu.be/4XM5hbS7GlU) It may have been taped, but there is no evidence that the tape ever aired until that special was made. Even with the _beep_ I don’t see how the censors would ever have allowed it through. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/36 "2018-07-21T07:53:02Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Huh. That’s an interesting one. I, too, would have sworn there were braces in that scene but, alas, no. I first saw that on TV, the old kind with avtiny screen, and it looked like she was wearing braces. Now looking at it on my phone it also looks like she has braces. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/37 "2018-07-21T12:10:28Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > And he does sing it at the end in many other versions than the album/studio version. Here’s Queen at Live Aid, 1985: [https://youtu.be/A22oy8dFjqc?t=20m6s](https://youtu.be/A22oy8dFjqc?t=20m6s) Clip goes right to the “…of the world!” ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/38 "2018-07-21T14:35:14Z")
Wait … C3PO has a silver leg? I totally never noticed that. Anyway, that’s not really Mandela effect. It’s just a failure to notice something. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/39 "2018-07-21T15:29:16Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Wait … C3PO has a silver leg? I totally never noticed that. > > Anyway, that’s not really Mandela effect. It’s just a failure to notice something. Holy cow. I never noticed that, either! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190/40 "2018-07-21T16:48:42Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Re _The Berenstain Bears_: names that end in “-stein”, like “Einstein” and “Goldstein” and “Frankenstein” are common; names that end in “-stain” are not. Given that people who cite the _The Berenstain Bears_ as an example of the Mandela Effect are _adults_, remembering a series of books they read as _children_, faulty memory is a much more plausible explanation for the phenomenon. Or so it seems to me. False memory is literally the name of the phenomenon. That’s the name of the wiki. It’s just that there are some things that people share the false memory about. > [@](#): > > In 2010 the phenomenon of collective false memory was dubbed the “Mandela effect” by self-described “paranormal consultant” Fiona Broome, in reference to a false memory she reports, of the death of South African leader Nelson Mandela in the 1980s (when he was in fact still alive), which she claims is shared by “perhaps thousands” of other people.[35] Broome has speculated about alternate realities as an explanation, but most commentators suggest that these are instead examples of false memories shaped by similar factors affecting multiple people,[36][37][30][38][33][39][40] such as social reinforcement of incorrect memories,[41][42] or false news reports and misleading photographs influencing the formation of memories based on them.[43][42] from the wiki in the OP > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Wait, how can there be no sunglasses? That’s like dividing by zero! Right? I just watched the [dance scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUj79ScZJTo) of Risky Business again. It’s nothing like I remember. Of course, Tom Cruise is also nothing like I remember. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-experienced-the-mandela-effect/818190.md?page=3)