# Have you heard of a plan to move San Diego, California to Alaska or this just a rumor? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 5, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214 "2013-06-05T15:37:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/21 "2013-06-05T18:31:54Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > What could **Mr. Quatro** have _possibly_ said to warrant such a re-opening? Does he have pictures, **Colibri**? 😛 It must have been a direct transfer into his Swiss bank account- **Colibri** is too smart to take a check or money order. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/22 "2013-06-05T18:32:03Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > I shouldn’t have added Norfolk, Naval base to the rumor though … See how easy that was? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/23 "2013-06-05T18:32:10Z")
Maybe we’re angling to be ground zero for the next great web rumour? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/24 "2013-06-05T18:34:14Z")
A quick check shows that “Portobello Alaska” is a pizza place in Anchorage. I _suppose_ they have subs too. For additional entertainment, the OP is currently weighing in against “The Athiest Gheys” in **Great Debates**. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/25 "2013-06-05T18:35:03Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > Mind blown. Or at least boggled. > [@silenus](#): > > What could **Mr. Quatro** have _possibly_ said to warrant such a re-opening? Does he have pictures, **Colibri**? 😛 I closed it because it was in GQ and the question seemed not to have any factual basis whatsover. Speculation, even if it’s not based on a rumor or even a reasonable premise, is OK in IMHO. I told the OP I didn’t think he’d get a better reception in this forum either, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/26 "2013-06-05T18:55:47Z")
In my humble opinion Colibri is a fair man … Ya’ll just seem to be too young to understand the 1950’s and the fear of a nuclear war with San Diego being a US naval base for too far back to remember for even me. What is clear is that WWII is over and the supply center and the shipyards and North Island with it’s naval air base and it’s three nuclear carriers homported there and Point Loma/Ballast Point submarine base have all become obsolete with the label of ground zero. A large part of Point Loma is hollow with stores of weapons for it’s ships by the way with the Rosecrans National cemetary over the top of it even. The only survivors would be the men and ships and planes at sea. Two million peope live in or around Tijuana, Mexico another two million people live in or around San Diego County (1.33 million in the city alone) with the nearest base being up around San Francisco (who has been very unfriendly to the Navy for several years) and they would not welcome any more Navy development there. Miramar Marine base is the old USN top gun base in North County San Diego moved up to Reno and is also a factual rumor to be in line to be traded for Lindberg Field in downtown San Diego where a US Marine training base is already in place. Moving the US Naval station and all of it’s men, women, supplies, ships and planes to Alaska would spare millions of lives in the event of nuclear war. If we are not to be afraid of nuclear war then why are we so ready to strike back in case of one? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/27 "2013-06-05T18:58:30Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > In my humble opinion Colibri is a fair man … > > Ya’ll just seem to be too young to understand the 1950’s and the fear of > a nuclear war with San Diego being a US naval base for too far back to remember for even me. > > What is clear is that WWII is over and the supply center and the shipyards and North Island with it’s naval air base and it’s three nuclear carriers homported there and Point Loma/Ballast Point submarine base have all become obsolete with the label of ground zero. A large part of Point Loma is hollow with stores of weapons for it’s ships by the way with the Rosecrans National cemetary over the top of it even. > > The only survivors would be the men and ships and planes at sea. > > Two million peope live in or around Tijuana, Mexico another two million people live in or around San Diego County (1.33 million in the city alone) with the nearest base being up around San Francisco (who has been very unfriendly to the Navy for several years) and they would not welcome any more Navy development there. > > Miramar Marine base is the old USN top gun base in North County San Diego moved up to Reno and is also a factual rumor to be in line to be traded for Lindberg Field in downtown San Diego where a US Marine training base is already in place. > > Moving the US Naval station and all of it’s men, women, supplies, ships and planes to Alaska would spare millions of lives in the event of nuclear war. > > If we are not to be afraid of nuclear war then why are we so ready to strike back in case of one? Can you give us a cite where the possibility of moving San Diego to Alaska is seriously being discussed? I’d like to know if you _heard_ a rumor, or _made up_ a rumor. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/28 "2013-06-05T19:02:12Z")
\*Easily \*the dumbest thing I’ve read this month. Or last month. Maybe since the first of the year… ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/29 "2013-06-05T19:07:23Z")
I heard talk of moving the Marines on Okinawa to Guam, but not any of pulling out of San Diego. NAS North Island has a lot of depot level maintenance facilities for F18 and SH-60’s. Are those going too? That’s tens of thousands of Federal and contract employees. Where are these folks gonna live in remote Alaska? Marine pup tents? ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/30 "2013-06-05T19:10:18Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > Moving the US Naval station and all of it’s men, women, supplies, ships and planes… …and titty bars and tattoo joints, and… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/31 "2013-06-05T19:11:11Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > It’s not even a rumor. It’s the deranged ramblings of someone with access to very potent drugs. Still, the idea of levering the entire city up off the ground, sticking thousands of tank treads underneath and sending the whole thing off on a cross country trip has a certain demented grandeur. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/32 "2013-06-05T19:11:39Z")
If you are concerned about survival after a nuclear war, moving the naval base to the center of the Sahara Desert would be good thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/33 "2013-06-05T19:12:03Z")
…shady ‘used snowmobile’ lots… ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/34 "2013-06-05T19:13:14Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > In my humble opinion Colibri is a fair man … > > Ya’ll just seem to be too young to understand the 1950’s and the fear of > a nuclear war with San Diego being a US naval base for too far back to remember for even me. > > What is clear is that WWII is over and the supply center and the shipyards and North Island with it’s naval air base and it’s three nuclear carriers homported there and Point Loma/Ballast Point submarine base have all become obsolete with the label of ground zero. A large part of Point Loma is hollow with stores of weapons for it’s ships by the way with the Rosecrans National cemetary over the top of it even. > > The only survivors would be the men and ships and planes at sea. > > Two million peope live in or around Tijuana, Mexico another two million people live in or around San Diego County (1.33 million in the city alone) with the nearest base being up around San Francisco (who has been very unfriendly to the Navy for several years) and they would not welcome any more Navy development there. > > Miramar Marine base is the old USN top gun base in North County San Diego moved up to Reno and is also a factual rumor to be in line to be traded for Lindberg Field in downtown San Diego where a US Marine training base is already in place. > > Moving the US Naval station and all of it’s men, women, supplies, ships and planes to Alaska would spare millions of lives in the event of nuclear war. > > If we are not to be afraid of nuclear war then why are we so ready to strike back in case of one? Unfortunately, you seem to have fallen victim to hearing partial information. You are repeating the punchline of an old Navy joke, the set-up of which I cannot share in mixed company. ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/35 "2013-06-05T19:17:18Z")
While they are at it, should they pack up Washington, DC and move it to Minot, North Dakota? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/36 "2013-06-05T19:18:14Z")
Where did you hear this “rumor”, **Mr Quatro**? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/37 "2013-06-05T19:25:44Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > Moving the US Naval station and all of it’s men, women, supplies, ships and planes to Alaska would spare millions of lives in the event of nuclear war. No it wouldn’t. To support all of the activities the Navy/Marines base out of the San Diego area would require the population of the San Diego area. Moving everything to Anchorage would just shift the target northward, in addition to increasing operating costs about 5 fold. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/38 "2013-06-05T19:26:51Z")
> [@Skara\_Brae](#): > > While they are at it, should they pack up Washington, DC and move it to Minot, North Dakota? Because North Dakota is still under the control of the Chinese Communists, after their invasion through Canada in 1987. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/39 "2013-06-05T19:35:33Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > No it wouldn’t. To support all of the activities the Navy/Marines base out of the San Diego area would require the population of the San Diego area. Moving everything to Anchorage would just shift the target northward, in addition to increasing operating costs about 5 fold. Not to mention, in the event of a nuclear war, we’d **all** be toast, whether we’re next door to the Navy or not. I mean, just what kind of ‘nuclear war’ are you envisioning here, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214/40 "2013-06-05T20:10:05Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Unfortunately, you seem to have fallen victim to hearing partial information. You are repeating the punchline of an old Navy joke, the set-up of which I cannot share in mixed company. But you can spoiler it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-a-plan-to-move-san-diego-california-to-alaska-or-this-just-a-rumor/660214.md?page=3)