# Have you heard of the Tulsa Race Massacre?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 1, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844 "2020-06-01T11:27:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/81 "2021-06-01T12:33:24Z")

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Wow, no wonder the Nazis looked at what the south was doing to minorities, they not only did copy and “perfected” the use of laws and policies to keep discrimination going, they also must have noticed how big lies from a complicit press can keep the rest of the population under dark and easier then for the powerful to even eliminate the ones that they hate/d.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/82 "2024-07-14T03:18:21Z")

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> **A veteran of the first world war** has become the first person identified from graves filled with more than a hundred victims of the 1921 [Tulsa massacre](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/tulsa-race-massacre) of the Oklahoma city’s Black community, the mayor said on Friday.
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> Using DNA from descendants of his brothers, the remains of CL Daniel – from Georgia – were identified by Intermountain Forensics, said Mayor GT Bynum and lab officials. Daniel was in his 20s when he was killed.

> **[Oklahoma identifies first victim in Tulsa race massacre mass grave](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/12/tulsa-race-massacre-graves)**
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> War veteran CL Daniel was in his 20s when he was killed in 1921, in one of deadliest acts of racist violence in US history

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/83 "2025-01-11T03:05:54Z")

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The Department of Justice has just completed a comprehensive report:

> **[Federal probe of 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre says 'no avenue' for criminal case...](https://apnews.com/article/tulsa-race-massacre-federal-investigation-greenwood-5035fca8d67a3c5791bceece1ce6e1c7)**
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> The first-ever U.S. Justice Department review of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre finds there is no longer an avenue to bring a criminal case in association with the attack by a white mob on a thriving Black district.

Here is the 123 page report:

[https://www.justice.gov/crt/media/1383756/dl](https://www.justice.gov/crt/media/1383756/dl)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/84 "2025-01-11T16:37:05Z")

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Honestly that’s not a surprise. How do you prosecute a crime that occurred over a hundred years ago? Any possible defendants are dead, as are any possible witnesses and surviving victims.

eta: Looking back in the thread, I see I may have made the same mistake twice. I assumed four years ago there were no surviving victims and was shown I was wrong. So some of those victims might still be alive and I might be wrong again.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/85 "2025-01-12T04:54:32Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Honestly that’s not a surprise. How do you prosecute a crime that occurred over a hundred years ago? Any possible defendants are dead, as are any possible witnesses and surviving victims.

I don’t know if actually prosecuting anyone was really the main goal. Given that many of us probably never heard about this in the first place, I didn’t know until around until I was around 25, for the feds to acknowledge it happened is a step in the right direction.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/86 "2025-01-12T05:04:28Z")

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I first heard about it four years ago when Extra History did a [nine-minute video](https://youtu.be/nc7lXBL9mng) on it.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/87 "2025-01-12T05:11:24Z")

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I first heard about it in the late 1990s or very early 2000s watching a show on The History Channel. That was back before they had all those shows about ancient aliens, ice road Truckers, and people looking to buy and sell antiques. I was flabbergasted not only by the scale but that I had never heard a thing about it in school.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/88 "2025-01-12T06:27:29Z")

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In school, but few details.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/89 "2025-01-15T00:16:39Z")

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I heard about it, but only in the last five or so years. Appalling is not the word.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/90 "2025-01-15T04:18:13Z")

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I grew up in Tulsa and went to junior high and high on the north side of town where the massacre occurred. In fact, my junior high, Carver Middle School, named after George Washington Carver, was located on Greenwood Avenue, which was the name of the area of Tulsa where the massacre happened. So yes, I know quite a bit about it.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-heard-of-the-tulsa-race-massacre/854844/91 "2025-01-15T04:52:50Z")

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So what kind of slant did the schools give to it?

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