# Have you no sense of decency, Mr. Cheney? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 14, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242 "2014-12-14T22:21:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/61 "2014-12-16T01:31:32Z")
…of all the people NOT to die of cardiac failure when they should have… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/62 "2014-12-16T01:39:40Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > …of all the people NOT to die of cardiac failure when they should have… He probably died years ago. The batteries just haven’t run down yet. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/63 "2014-12-16T01:54:24Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > It is exceedingly rare for a former politician to basically renounce his or her legacy later in life. > > Cheney is stuck forever as the piece of shit scumbag he is. I prefer he stick to his guns. Agreed, I don’t want to hear apologists in later years claim, ‘well, he said he was sorry he made mistakes!’ ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/64 "2014-12-16T02:42:53Z")
Actually, it’d probably be more like, “He said he was sorry if anyone was offended, and that mistakes were made.” ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/65 "2014-12-16T02:49:56Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Of course, he doesn’t consider it torture. It’s an “enhanced interrogation technique”. This is a great example of PC language from the right. He’s wrong either way, since he’s most certainly torturing the English language. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/66 "2014-12-16T03:07:47Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > That guy seriously jerks off while screaming Jack Nicholson’s courtroom speech from A Few Good Men. > [@Ludovic](#): > > There’s a “Soviet Russia” masturbation “truth handles YOU!” joke there but I won’t make it. His penis is nicknamed “The Truth.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/67 "2014-12-16T03:11:14Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > Obviously if there was the option of having 0% innocent and also no guilty people being released he would go for that option. \*\*But that’s not an available option. \*\*If you look at what he said, in the part you quoted, he’s clearly discussing it in terms of the available options and weighing the lesser evil. I can tell you what _WAS_ an available option. Not torturing anybody. Framing it as a choice between releasing people and torturing them seems to exclude a pretty substantial middle. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![drew870mitchell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drew870mitchell/32/3946_2.png) [@drew870mitchell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drew870mitchell)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/68 "2014-12-16T03:58:11Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > As such, he is a pustule on the diseased backside of humanity. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > He and his daughter are both botflies under the skin of the country. Disgusting parasitic larva who need to be excised from our sight. > [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > He is a sick, scared little weasel… Um, could we not do this? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/69 "2014-12-16T04:14:52Z")
> [@drew870mitchell](#): > > Um, could we not do this? Why ever not? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/70 "2014-12-16T04:35:47Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Why ever not? He doesn’t want to see vermin and disease disparaged so. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/71 "2014-12-16T04:57:07Z")
> [@drew870mitchell](#): > > Um, could we not do this? Fuck him. I hope the cocksucker dies a painful death. ---
**Author:** ![drew870mitchell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drew870mitchell/32/3946_2.png) [@drew870mitchell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drew870mitchell)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/72 "2014-12-16T05:04:35Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Fuck him. I hope the cocksucker dies a painful death. That’s super as long as you remember you’re wishing it upon a human. I even give “piece of shit” a pass since it’s probably said more about people than about actual pieces of shit. Dehumanizing people, well, is probably part of the thought process that helps torturers sleep at night. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/73 "2014-12-16T05:27:50Z")
I made my cousin eat a bug once. Outside of that, my conscience is pretty clear. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/74 "2014-12-16T07:29:39Z")
> [@drew870mitchell](#): > > That’s super as long as you remember you’re wishing it upon a human. I even give “piece of shit” a pass since it’s probably said more about people than about actual pieces of shit. Dehumanizing people, well, is probably part of the thought process that helps torturers sleep at night. I don’t torture my pets, either, but I’m under no delusions they are human. The problem is not thinking someone isn’t human. It’s torturing people. I am on record as saying it costs little to be sympathetic towards even the worse people. I can have sympathy for him. But I can also believe he is an inhuman piece of trash and that the world will only improve when he is no longer in it. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/75 "2014-12-16T11:47:01Z")
All youse guys bashing Cheney are going to feel pretty stupid when you find out who agrees with him: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKFqUzCunJk) ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/76 "2014-12-16T12:22:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Baghdadi was in the custody of the U.S. military in Iraq in Camp Bucca. He was let go and now he’s out leading the terror attack against the United States. You do have to wonder about cause and effect in times like this. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/77 "2014-12-16T14:11:15Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > All youse guys bashing Cheney are going to feel pretty stupid when you find out who agrees with him: > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\_embedded&v=tKFqUzCunJk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tKFqUzCunJk) I’m not sure what this means. **Bricker** is a big fan of Karl Rove; let’s ask him what his views on the matter are. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/78 "2014-12-16T14:40:32Z")
[BREAKING EXCLUSIVE PIC Dick Cheney emerges to discuss torture](https://twitter.com/HaroldItz/status/544644181432758272/photo/1) ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/79 "2014-12-16T14:40:47Z")
> [@drew870mitchell](#): > > Um, could we not do this? I think identifying Cheney as “sick” and “scared” is humanizing, actually. He probably isn’t some horrible robot sociopath. He’s just a man whose amygdala is a little out of whack, giving him an overdeveloped sense of self-righteousness and causing him to do evil because he is fearful. Moreover, it seems to me that the bigger threat when talking about individuals is not de-humanizing them but super-humanizing them. That’s what Cheney et al. did to KSM and the rest of these “worst of the worst” terrorists, painting them as masterminds when in fact they were a bunch of rubes from donkey college who happened to get lucky once (and, of course, some of whom were just innocent people ransomed to us by the Northern Alliance). ---
**Author:** ![BOOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@BOOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BOOM)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242/80 "2014-12-16T15:07:59Z")
The starting point for all things Dick is always … “I had other priorities in the '60s than military service.” Stayed classy, that fella. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-no-sense-of-decency-mr-cheney/707242.md?page=5)