# Have You Pledged to Serve Jimmy Joe Meager Today?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 9, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394 "2009-09-09T05:34:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/21 "2009-09-09T16:30:51Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I suppose American waffles aren’t good enough? Typical! Would you like to know who else liked Belgian waffles?

The Belgians?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/22 "2009-09-09T16:31:29Z")

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> [@Xan](#):
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> I don’t. I value individuality above most things.

How does individuality contradict service? Did you mean to say you value disengagement from humanity above most thing?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/23 "2009-09-09T16:31:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I suppose American waffles aren’t good enough? Typical! Would you like to know who else liked Belgian waffles?

…

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/24 "2009-09-09T16:34:08Z")

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Alford Hilter?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/25 "2009-09-09T16:42:04Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Not really…the full concept is “I pledge to serve the president and the American people”. In other words, “I’m going to try and help out others”, with the president lumped in and given equal footing as everyone else.

Start helping others all willy-nilly, you run a real risk of compassion, or even the dreaded _empathy_, and before you know it some towelhead’s shoving a dirty bomb up our tailpipes while we’re sitting around in caftans singing Kumbaya!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/26 "2009-09-09T16:42:57Z")

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/:=|

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/27 "2009-09-09T16:49:10Z")

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Service guarantees citizenship.  
Would you like to know more?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/28 "2009-09-09T16:52:20Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> The Belgians?

I think they prefer to be called “the Belsh”

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/29 "2009-09-09T17:05:05Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Service guarantees citizenship.  
> Would you like to know more?

Meh. I just want to kill some damned Bugs!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/30 "2009-09-09T17:15:47Z")

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It’s an ugly planet. It’s a Meager planet.

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/31 "2009-09-09T17:20:32Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I pledge to serve the president. I will lay my body down in mud so he can walk over my back to keep his shoes clean.

Under those conditions, I pledge to lend the president my shoes.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/32 "2009-09-09T17:22:39Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Our armed forces implicitly pledge to serve the president every day. They carry out his orders without question.

They carry out his orders in so far that his orders are consistent with the law and the Constitution, because that’s what our Armed Forces are pledged to protect and serve.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/33 "2009-09-09T17:42:22Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> They carry out his orders in so far that his orders are consistent with the law and the Constitution, because that’s what our Armed Forces are pledged to protect and serve.

And just how does Sergeant Jones — or for that matter General Smith — decide whether the president’s orders are “consistent with the law and the Constitution”?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/34 "2009-09-09T17:43:45Z")

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**Captain Amazing** - Well, of course. They’ll follow the orders of the commander-in-chief unless they’re unlawful.

Unless you’re implying that private citizens doing service for the country (like what my buddies **Jimmy Meager** and his wife **Carol Stream** are complaining about) is unconstitutional, though, I don’t get your point.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/35 "2009-09-09T17:47:32Z")

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Aw, let him have his pledges. With his stats sinking faster than the Titanic the poor guy needs a break. 🙂

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/36 "2009-09-09T17:54:54Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I think they prefer to be called “the Belsh”

Actually I believe you mean “Miserable fat Belgian bastards.”

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/37 "2009-09-09T17:54:55Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> The Belgians?

Sock le blue No!

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/38 "2009-09-09T17:59:15Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I pledge to serve the president. I will lay my body down in mud so he can walk over my back to keep his shoes clean. And if Jimmy What’s-His-Name doesn’t like it, he can kiss my red ass.

They have a cream for that.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/39 "2009-09-09T18:07:42Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> And just how does Sergeant Jones — or for that matter General Smith — decide whether the president’s orders are “consistent with the law and the Constitution”?

The presiding officers at his court-martial tell him.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/40 "2009-09-09T18:10:12Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> **Jimmy Meager** and his wife **Carol Stream**

For serious? Or have I been whooshed?

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