# Have You Pledged to Serve Jimmy Joe Meager Today?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 9, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394 "2009-09-09T05:34:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/61 "2009-09-10T00:00:37Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> I mean, AFAIK **Miller** is not offensive…

Hmm. Apparently, I need to start bringing my A game.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/62 "2009-09-10T00:03:54Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Can I get a link, please?

When it comes to Jimmy Joe, you gotta make like the Stones and ask “Can I get a witless…?”

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/63 "2009-09-10T00:46:55Z")

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> [@Carol\_Stream](#):
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> That’s retarded, you stupid troll. If you talk about someone on a message board,  
> you’re “directing” your comments, if not to her, then certainly about her. Shall I post in random threads you’re in, commenting on your heterosexuality?

This is a good start, **Carol**. Now try to imagine how it must feel for people who are \*actual \*victims of \*real \*oppression.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/64 "2009-09-10T00:47:44Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Hmm. Apparently, I need to start bringing my A game.

Oops.. sorry. Scent excepted.

😛

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**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/65 "2009-09-10T01:06:28Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Oooh! Maybe she’s a hermaphrodite! How’s that for questioning your gender, **Carol**?

**Carol** _is_ Cartman’s mom!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/66 "2009-09-10T01:29:40Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Surely you can’t be serious.

Truly, there is some fork-in-the-outlet level stupid going on here. It aint **Miller** , it aint me, it aint **Bup** , it aint the other people responding. I wonder who it is…

For what it’s worth, Carol’s schtick reminds me of turnspeak. The very act of coming to a message board and deliberately choosing a name that you know will make many assume (with good reason) that you’re a woman, and then using that as a pretense to pick fights just seems like a deliberate pretense. And, it wouldn’t surprise me if it has represented itself as both male and female.

I thought I [remembered](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9922914&postcount=165) a [discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9922914&highlight=perforce#post9922914). In it, it claimed that [it has a husband and has been married for 19 years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9926241&postcount=184), which almost certainly puts its alleged marriage far before what would be the most likely (but not the only possible) period during which gay marriages were performed. Of course, it could also be using language as a political device, and just like I wouldn’t object to my friend **nevermore** calling her partner her wife (even though she doesn’t). Since, after all, I believe that marriage is a seal upon a reality and not the reality itself, that common law marriage should be the norm and just because Texas doesn’t have a legal category for their union that their union isn’t real in thought, context and deed. ~shrugs~

So maybe it is a married gay man, okay.

But that doesn’t even begin to explain why a man would choose a user name starting with “Carol”, and then instead of accepting with good humor that it would naturally lead to assumptions about his gender… he’d use that totally understandable and predictable assumption as a springboard for causing controversy and accusing people of trolling. It’d be a bit like me flipping out if people assumed I was from Finland or liked James Joyce. Or Shodan going berserk if people asked him about the evil computer from System Shock. Or Miller going bonkers if people asked if he was named Miller in real life or once worked in a grist mill. Or Malthus flipping his lid if people assumed that he was a fan of the historical Malthus. Or Liberal standing on ceremony because someone assumed that he chose his user name because he identified with late 20th and early 21st century Liberalism as well as the left wing of the Democratic party.

Anyways, Carol’s dog and pony show puts me in mind of a slightly whinier, dumber, more obnoxious Pat.  
And that was always my least favorite SNL skit anyways.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/67 "2009-09-10T03:07:48Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Oh crap. I was sure she was a guy, hence the post. I wasn’t trying to troll. I honestly _did_ think she was a guy. **Carol Stream** , you have my apologies.

Thank you very much. Now if the rest of the tards can just STFU, we’d all be good.

Sad.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/68 "2009-09-10T06:15:08Z")

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And thank you, **Carol Stream** , for accepting my apology. You can rest assured that I won’t make the same mistake twice.

But, **FinnAgain** , damn it. Are you calling me an idiot? Fucking hell, man, what you quoted from me was a joke. Am I the only one that’s seen _Airplane_?

“Surely you can’t be serious”  
“I’m very serious…and don’t call me Shirley”

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/69 "2009-09-10T06:47:19Z")

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That said, my first post in this thread was asking for a link, so I think I’ll post another link that pretty much sums up my thoughts on this thread.

link

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/70 "2009-09-10T12:04:42Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> And thank you, **Carol Stream** , for accepting my apology. You can rest assured that I won’t make the same mistake twice.
> 
> But, **FinnAgain** , damn it. Are you calling me an idiot? Fucking hell, man, what you quoted from me was a joke. Am I the only one that’s seen _Airplane_?
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> “Surely you can’t be serious”  
> “I’m very serious…and don’t call me Shirley”

Stop trolling me, you fucking troll.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/71 "2009-09-10T12:11:43Z")

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Don’t be so stupid!  
Monkey with a gun isn’t trolling you.  
Miller is trolling you.

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/72 "2009-09-10T19:50:48Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Our armed forces implicitly pledge to serve the president every day. They carry out his orders without question.
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> We like it then, right? These guys sometimes \*die \*because the president says they have to. And it makes us weep - the dedication and sacrifice of it. We honor it above most things.
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> Yes, I pledge to serve the president today, in a smaller way than our military does.

Agreed. I just wonder where these jokers were this time last year.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/73 "2009-09-10T20:33:09Z")

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> [@Xan](#):
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> I don’t. I value individuality above most things.

That’s what \*everyone \*says.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/74 "2009-09-10T21:22:31Z")

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Christ on a crutch, I go away for a day or two and all this happens? Whatever…

I reaffirm, nay… I \*pledge \*to continue mockery where mockery is necessary. Or funny. Or even the slightest bit amusing. Or useful to make a point.

The title of this tread I find amusing, and if anyone would like to pledge to serve me feel free. It won’t get you socialized healthcare, or a beer, but I might call you “stupid”. So if you’re looking for all three you should pledge to serve someone else. Someone like… I dunno… hmmmmmm… _ **SATAN?** _ [/Church Lady]

But seriously, no, y’all go about your business. I’ll sign off with the most memorable and inspiring moment from last night’s healthcare infomercial:

**"Ask not what your Obama can do for you, ask what you can do for your Obama!"**

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/75 "2009-09-10T21:23:33Z")

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Have you pledged your service to Satan today?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/76 "2009-09-10T21:25:06Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> Christ on a crutch, I go away for a day or two and all this happens? Whatever…

Try a coupla years, you never know!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/77 "2009-09-10T23:02:19Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> I reaffirm, nay… I \*pledge \*to continue mockery where mockery is necessary. Or funny. Or even the slightest bit amusing. Or useful to make a point.

This is the attitude that I am addressing. This mockery isn’t necessary, it’s childish. There are plenty of things that the left does and says that are ripe for ridicule, like Van Jones for instance, or Bill Clinton getting a blow job. However, on this board, where a sizable portion of contributors are abhorrent of any sort of deification, your stance is willfully ignorant.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/78 "2009-09-10T23:09:53Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> I reaffirm, nay… I \*pledge \*to continue mockery where mockery is necessary. Or funny. Or even the slightest bit amusing. Or useful to make a point.
> 
> \*\*

If any of these applied to your mockery, I’d back you up.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/79 "2009-09-10T23:14:54Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> I’ll sign off with the most memorable and inspiring moment from last night’s healthcare infomercial:
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> **“Ask not what your Obama can do for you, ask what you can do for your Obama!”**

Cite?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-pledged-to-serve-jimmy-joe-meager-today/509394/80 "2009-09-10T23:42:15Z")

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I find your lack of sources disturbing.

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