# have you seen the documentary "Why we fight" ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 22, 2006, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791 "2006-08-22T19:38:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wildfire\_MM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f08c70/32.png) [@Wildfire\_MM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildfire_MM)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/1 "2006-08-22T19:38:28Z")
this is a brilliant doc. who shows how what a lot of Americans think and also show the more cynical reasons for Americans wars since WW2 and not at least how easy it is for the government to brainwash a large portion of the people Here is the trailer: [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436971/trailers-screenplay-E27126-10-2](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436971/trailers-screenplay-E27126-10-2) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/2 "2006-08-22T19:45:19Z")
Nothing about the trailer suggests anything particularly shocking will be revealed. Eisenhower’s quote resonates, but linkages between industry and military didn’t just spring into existence in the last sixty years - it’s just on a bigger scale than it had been in the previous 5000. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/3 "2006-08-22T19:46:03Z")
Masterful bits of propoganda. My own favorite bit was on the German invasion of Poland and how ‘our Soviet brothers’ valiantly swept into the eastern half of Poland to keep the Nazis from getting it. Not **quite** how it happened, but understandable at the time. As for “how easy” and all that in your OP…governments use propoganda because it **WORKS**. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Wildfire\_MM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f08c70/32.png) [@Wildfire\_MM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildfire_MM)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/4 "2006-08-22T19:49:13Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Masterful bits of propoganda. > > My own favorite bit was on the German invasion of Poland and how ‘our Soviet brothers’ valiantly swept into the eastern half of Poland to keep the Nazis from getting it. > > Not **quite** how it happened, but understandable at the time. > > As for “how easy” and all that in your OP…governments use propoganda because it **WORKS**. > > -Joe Yes but some are a bit more easy to fool ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/5 "2006-08-22T23:35:31Z")
If you want a _really_ brilliant documentary that comments on warfare in the 20th century as well as how our government has decieved the people, pick up [The Fog of War](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/). Shock and awe, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Wildfire\_MM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f08c70/32.png) [@Wildfire\_MM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildfire_MM)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/6 "2006-08-23T00:18:11Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > If you want a _really_ brilliant documentary that comments on warfare in the 20th century as well as how our government has decieved the people, pick up [The Fog of War](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/). > > Shock and awe, indeed. I just saw the trailer on IMDb. It seams interesting ---
**Author:** ![Ceejaytee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ceejaytee/32/2956_2.png) [@Ceejaytee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ceejaytee)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/7 "2006-08-23T19:15:41Z")
My husband and I saw _Why We Fight_ a couple of weeks ago. It was really great. I especially liked the way they used Wilton Sekzer, a Vietnam vet and retired NYC police officer who lost a son on 9/11. How he goes from wanting revenge, to being upset about being lied to about Iraq’s “connection” to Al Qaeda, and his anger about being lied to in Vietnam. The DVD extra that had Q&A with the director, Eugene Jarecki, was also worth watching. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/8 "2006-08-23T19:21:00Z")
Well, sumbitch. I’m a moron. I was talking about the WW2 Capra “Why We Fight” movies…Oops. That’s why you need to click on the links provided, kids! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Wildfire\_MM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f08c70/32.png) [@Wildfire\_MM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildfire_MM)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-seen-the-documentary-why-we-fight/369791/9 "2006-08-23T20:00:23Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] Well, sumbitch. I’m a moron. I was talking about the WW2 Capra “Why We Fight” movies…Oops. That’s why you need to click on the links provided, kids! -Joe [/QUOTE] I actually thought about asking if we where taliking about the same movie 😃