# Have you vandalized Wikipedia?  Tell us!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 13, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792 "2007-12-13T00:48:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Neptunian\_Slug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce7236/32.png) [@Neptunian\_Slug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neptunian_Slug)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/1 "2007-12-13T00:48:47Z")

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I want to know if you are a wiki-vandal. I edited it for a little bit and found pretty quickly that vandals are given extremely wide latitude. I gave up because I got tired of the same guys beating the hell out of articles I wrote with virtually no consequences. They get a couple of warnings, but essentially its hard to get banned. Certain IP addresses (like universities) are even harder to ban because it would effectively shut out legitimate users.

Some vandalism is useless because its something stupid like “Ken Griffey is gay” or just outwardly racist. No thought, no creativity. I can’t respect that. But some vandals are so good that their stuff persists in articles for quite a while. or its just hilarious to read for the few minutes or hours its up. Are you a creative vandal? I hope you’ll share it.

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/2 "2007-12-13T01:09:58Z")

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So, do you maintain the page on Atlantic Records or what? Is vandalism that big a problem on Wikipedia?

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![Neptunian\_Slug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce7236/32.png) [@Neptunian\_Slug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neptunian_Slug)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/3 "2007-12-13T01:16:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Mtgman]  
So, do you maintain the page on Atlantic Records or what? Is vandalism that big a problem on Wikipedia?

Enjoy,  
Steven  
[/QUOTE]

No I don’t.

I don’t know if its a big problem. Its was enough of a problem for me. After a while I figured that vandals had a hell of a lot more fun than I was.

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**Author:** ![Stauderhorse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Stauderhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stauderhorse)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/4 "2007-12-13T01:24:28Z")

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Twice, actually. I’m not particularly proud of it, but there it is. I went onto the character page for Carrie Bradshaw from _Sex and the City_ and wrote that in the season finale, it was revealed that she was actually a lesbian (which obviously wasn’t the case).

I also went onto the page for _Wham_’s “Last Christmas” and wrote something along the lines of “This song is one of the greatest cultural achievements of our time”.

Both vandalisms were fixed within a matter of hours. Though I did sort of make up for my childish vandalism by un-vandalising (new word!) two pages.

On a page for some racehorse, someone had put, in all caps, something like “yay [horse’s name], yay [horse’s name], boooooooooo [some other horse’s name], you suck.” I deleted it.

On the page for “Terrance and Philip”, someone had written, right in the middle of a coherent paragraph “Philp has farty pants OMG HA HA”. I fixed that as well.

So did my Wikipedia karma balance out?

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/5 "2007-12-13T01:27:26Z")

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I think I’ve posted this before. My buddies were arguing about who was the USA woman who “flashed” the crowd after she scored a goal in the World Cup. They bet a six pack, and the one who was saying it was Mia Hamm edited her page and “won” the bet.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/6 "2007-12-13T01:29:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Stauderhorse]  
So did my Wikipedia karma balance out?  
[/QUOTE]  
Nope, sorry. You must now fill in a minimum of 15 “this article is a stub” entries using original research. Until you complete your task, the WikiBird will poop on your car. Daily.

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/7 "2007-12-13T01:30:17Z")

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When it looked like the article on a mate’s band was about to be deleted for a lack of notability, we had a go at some silly [trivia](http://meta.uncyclomedia.org/wiki/UnSource:Wikipedia_BJAODN/These_bad_jokes_need_to_be_cleaned_up_to_conform_to_a_higher_standard_of_deleted_nonsense_quality#From_The_Avari), probably not funny to people other than my friends though.

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**Author:** ![ErinPuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@ErinPuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ErinPuff)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/8 "2007-12-13T01:37:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Mtgman]  
So, do you maintain the page on Atlantic Records or what? Is vandalism that big a problem on Wikipedia?

[/QUOTE]

YOU SUCK!

(I’m assuming you’re referencing the video for Weird Al’s “White and Nerdy”; I’m not saying you suck.)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/9 "2007-12-13T03:54:17Z")

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I’d like to hear more details before I pass judgement. What exactly was the repeated vandalism that the OP faced? I’ve unfortunately seen cases of things like “I keep trying to explain how the CIA was behind the Kennedy assassination but all of those damn vandals keep deleting my posts.”

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/10 "2007-12-13T03:57:04Z")

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[QUOTE=squeegee]  
Nope, sorry. You must now fill in a minimum of 15 “this article is a stub” entries using original research. Until you complete your task, the WikiBird will poop on your car. Daily.  
[/QUOTE]

Tsk, tsk. [Original research is not allowed](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research).

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/11 "2007-12-13T04:36:11Z")

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I wonder what the _sneakiest_ kind of vandalism might have been, and how long it took for someone to catch it. Yeah they can keep checking their watchlists and visiting everything that underwent some editing, zip in, look for the smoking gun and wipe it clean away, but perhaps you were more subtle than that in your vandalism. Ergo:

Years ago, some pirates were privateers,  
operating with a letter of marque which was  
used in authorized attacks on ships flying the colors of  
sworn enemies of the issuing nation. Privateers  
usually were allowed to keep a certain percentage of the  
cut of the plunder, with the rest  
kept for delivery to the issuing nation.

[It’s 11:30 at night, I’m about to go to bed, that’s as good as I can do on short notice, so I assume the gag is pretty obvious]

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**Author:** ![Neptunian\_Slug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce7236/32.png) [@Neptunian\_Slug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neptunian_Slug)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/12 "2007-12-13T04:41:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
I’d like to hear more details before I pass judgement. What exactly was the repeated vandalism that the OP faced? I’ve unfortunately seen cases of things like “I keep trying to explain how the CIA was behind the Kennedy assassination but all of those damn vandals keep deleting my posts.”  
[/QUOTE]

I used to write or update pages of former Members of Congress. Mostly stuff about election results, election opponents, nonsense like that. Most of what you get is some idiot who decides to post random stupidity like “Congressman X also hates black people”. Once a vandal decides he gets under your skin, he keeps coming back. Those warnings WP gives you to try and stop it are oh so helpful.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/13 "2007-12-13T04:53:27Z")

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[QUOTE=MEBuckner]  
Tsk, tsk. [Original research is not allowed](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research).  
[/QUOTE]  
Whoosh. 🙂

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/14 "2007-12-13T05:17:01Z")

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Not realizing, at the time, that changing “facts” at Wikipedia had a certain protocol, I visited, and change the misinformation which was in the article. Hey! I knew more than the info that was there. Of course, it got reversed. I didn’t bother to read the instructions. Later, I went back and posted it properly, adding cites, etc.

The mindless teen-aged(mostly) vandals are really, REALLY a problems. I’ve contributed to 10-15 articles, and they get vandalized weekly. Sometimes daily. Mostly things are “Josh sucks” etc.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/15 "2007-12-13T05:23:57Z")

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There used to be a beautiful piece of vandalism in [Derek Roy](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Derek_Roy&oldid=115991732)’s page, but sadly somebody caught it.

Check the awards section

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/16 "2007-12-13T07:19:51Z")

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I don’t vandalize articles myself, but sometimes I just have to stop and admire another’s work of vandalism for a minute or two before reverting it. When Benedict XVI was named Pope, someone edited his page to show a picture of Supreme Chancellor Palpatine from the Star Wars prequels. I lol’d, and in the time that it took me to lol, someone else beat me to reverting the edit.

I read somewhere that the average lifespan of a vandalism on Wikipedia is somewhere in the neighborhood of eight minutes. Not only do you have various Wikipedia editors roaming around protecting their babies, but some editors also employ automated “bots” which sift through updates looking for anything that is generally indicative of a vandalism, flagging or correcting articles as it finds them.

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**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/17 "2007-12-13T08:14:03Z")

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I remember there was a thread here a while back detailing a bit of wiki vandalism. It was an article about some small obscure village somewhere, and after a one sentence generic description, it ended with “…and a few dipsticks” or something like that. I found it amusing anyway, that not only was there an article about this village that didn’t really have anything notable about it, but someone found the time to vandalize it.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/18 "2007-12-13T09:41:10Z")

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[QUOTE=John DiFool]

Years ago, some pirates were privateers,  
operating with a letter of marque which was  
used in authorized attacks on ships flying the colors of  
sworn enemies of the issuing nation. Privateers  
usually were allowed to keep a certain percentage of the  
cut of the plunder, with the rest  
kept for delivery to the issuing nation.  
[/QUOTE]

Acrostics. Cool.

“For us creatures, knowledge yields only understanding.”

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/19 "2007-12-13T10:15:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Scissorjack]  
Acrostics. Cool.

“For us creatures, knowledge yields only understanding.”  
[/QUOTE]

They did one on the title page of _White Dwarf_ (fantasy hobby magazine) about 21 years ago. Staff disgruntled at the actions of the new owner managed to slip “Sod Off Brian Ansell” past the censors. 😃

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-vandalized-wikipedia-tell-us/429792/20 "2007-12-13T10:20:10Z")

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I have corrected vandalism, and contributed much (some of which has been removed even though I don’t think it deserved to be). I have never vandalised anything myself. I can appreciate some that is particularly funny, but that’s rare, it’s almost always virtual graffiti.

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