# Having laid low, the N.R.A. is fully prepped and rehearsed to control legislation. As usual.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [December 20, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605 "2012-12-20T05:02:36Z")
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### Author: ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/301 "2012-12-24T22:21:10Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I await the NRA press conference where they call for firefighters to carry guns…

And what’s the deal with a fuckin’ water cannon on the trucks? They need _real_ cannons, 40mm at least.

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### Author: ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/302 "2012-12-24T22:35:49Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I see those wonderful open-minded gun owners are now petitioning the White House to [deport Piers Morgan.](http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/12/24/obama-piers-morgan-deport-white-house-petition/1788899/) They shore do loves that Constitution. Or at least one half of one Amendment.

It seems to be an obnoxious tendency in this debate (or all polarizing debates, I suppose) for people on both sides to lump their opponents into one easily stereotyped mass. Hence “those wonderful open-minded gun owners.” The 32,000 who’ve signed that moronic petition are an insignificant fraction of American gun rights advocates. Please, we’re not _all_ morons. 😛

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### Author: ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/303 "2012-12-25T17:22:41Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> And what’s the deal with a fuckin’ water cannon on the trucks? They need _real_ cannons, 40mm at least.

The tree of liberty will surely burn down when the right of firefighters to mortar their targets is impinged.

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### Author: ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/304 "2012-12-25T17:26:30Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> The tree of liberty will surely burn down …

Instead of being blasted to wood chips as is right and proper.

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/305 "2012-12-25T19:30:00Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> And what’s the deal with a fuckin’ water cannon on the trucks? They need _real_ cannons, 40mm at least.

And those pesky NY City gun laws prevent mounting real 50,000 gal/min water cannons on the trucks, the way they do on a couple of their boats.

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### Author: ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/306 "2012-12-26T00:44:21Z")

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Yesterday in my city - I don’t want to say which one, but - while I was out buying some lobsters, next to a moose underneath a pine tree, there was an open-carry activist who decided to take a stroll around one of our fairer, ok, let’s face it, shittier neighborhoods with an AR-15 over his shoulder. No reason. Just troll … I mean making a point.

Cops confronted him after several 911 calls but they didn’t do anything other than watch him until he left … after a three hour stroll.  
Yay for AR-15s! You know, apropos of nothing.

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/307 "2012-12-26T01:10:20Z")

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Put his name on the list.

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### Author: ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/308 "2012-12-26T03:04:35Z")

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Headline from the past: Knife-Juggler at Sharon Tate’s Funeral Deemed “Tone-Deaf.”

True story.

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### Author: ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/309 "2012-12-26T18:28:26Z")

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Don’t send Piers Morgan back here. We think he’s a cnut.

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/310 "2012-12-26T19:16:54Z")

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Someone ought to douse him or punch him out, but not for his position on the NRA and guns.

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### Author: ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/311 "2012-12-28T19:31:58Z")

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The NRA “jump the shark” moment for me was when they started taking positions on taxation and supply side economics. They had already won the gun debate and needed a reason to continue existing.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/312 "2012-12-28T19:40:24Z")

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Actually, the Cato Institute won the gun debate.

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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/313 "2012-12-28T19:42:31Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> The NRA “jump the shark” moment for me was when they started taking positions on taxation and supply side economics. They had already won the gun debate and needed a reason to continue existing.

There are several extant threads here that didn’t get the memo, if indeed the NRA won the gun debate.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/314 "2012-12-28T19:56:50Z")

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We also debate abortion, whether the US Civil War was about slavery, and the effectiveness of healing crystals, you know.

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### Author: ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/315 "2012-12-28T20:29:44Z")

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> [@gunchris](#):
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> We need to change the culture of money being in charge. I don’t have a clue how to do that though.

Simple. Stop liking money so damn much.

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### Author: ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/316 "2012-12-28T22:36:12Z")

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Does anyone else get the feeling that there’s a room in the NRA HQ in Virginia where there’s about a hundred interns sitting in front of laptops furiously posting to message boards, including this one?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=8980217](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=8980217)

Join date 12-23-2012

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/317 "2012-12-28T23:14:11Z")

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Nah, they just come out of the woodwork every once in a while. Kinda cute, with their childlike faith that as soon as they apprise us of their clear common sense, we will fall all over ourselves to express our total agreement with their awesomeness. They lie dormant for months, sometimes, then suddenly there’s an outbreak, like cicada or head lice.

I know it seems like something directed, someone assigned to get on our case. But we are the SDMB, we aren’t important enough to infiltrate or subvert.

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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/318 "2012-12-29T10:10:14Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> We also debate abortion, whether the US Civil War was about slavery, and the effectiveness of healing crystals, you know.

Yes.

I’d be at least a bit surprised if someone asserted that either side – except perhaps the “side” of status quo had won the abortion debate, just as I was with the claim that the NRA had won the gun control debate.

Do you believe the NRA won the gun control debate?

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### Author: ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/319 "2012-12-29T14:34:09Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> [It’s all in their playbook.](http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/politics/nra-silence-regrouping/index.html?hpt=hp_c3).
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> The carefully timed out period of respect and mourning. The engaging in dialogue. It’s all a bullet-ridden fucking smokescreen to buy time until the news cycle moves on and they get to do what they always do- control the US Senate and House with the leverage bought and paid for.

Conspiracy theory much?  
:rolleyes:

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### Author: ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-laid-low-the-n-r-a-is-fully-prepped-and-rehearsed-to-control-legislation-as-usual/644605/320 "2012-12-29T15:21:21Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Conspiracy theory much?  
> :rolleyes:

Facts in evidence don’t constitute a “conspiracy theory.”

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