# Having sex with clones

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 25, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806 "2002-05-25T17:15:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Hoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Hoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoe)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/1 "2002-05-25T17:15:43Z")

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Now lets say I would have my self cloned. And lets say I was gay. If I then had sex with my clone would that be incest or masturbation?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2002, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/2 "2002-05-25T17:18:10Z")

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Incest since the clone is sorta your sibling.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2002, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/3 "2002-05-25T17:38:42Z")

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No different than gay twins really.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2002, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/4 "2002-05-25T19:17:43Z")

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Unless you were willing to wait eighteen years, it would be pedophilia to boot.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2002, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/5 "2002-05-25T20:12:33Z")

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If I killed everyone who asked this question lest I go crazy, would it be self-defense or justifiable homicide?

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2002, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/6 "2002-05-25T23:58:57Z")

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Justifiable.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/7 "2002-05-26T01:59:36Z")

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Read David Gerrold’s _The Man Who Folded Himself_. That’s time travel, but it raises the same issue.

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**Author:** ![Hazel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Hazel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazel)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/8 "2002-05-26T03:34:01Z")

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Isaac Asimov addressed this question some years ago, in his"Clone Song" (sung to the tune of “Home on the Range”).

In the song, the male singer speaks of having himself cloned  
“with the Y chromosome changed to an X,  
and then my clone, my own little clone,  
will be of the oposite sex!”

But, as the song goes on to acknowledge,  
“when I’m with my clone, I’m alone.”

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/9 "2002-05-26T03:54:24Z")

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Robert Heinlein has a short story in which a character does something very similar using a time machine.

By time traveling, the protagonist manages to become his own father and his own mother.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/10 "2002-05-26T15:06:09Z")

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And recruits himself for his job.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/11 "2002-05-26T15:07:57Z")

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And recruits himself for his job.

Actually it sounds better when you lay it out as the male protagonist becomes (in no real order) his own mother, his own father, his own daughter and his own job recruitment officer.

It’s called _All you Zombies_ and is a really good read even with me having spoiled it for you.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/12 "2002-05-26T15:09:26Z")

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Whoops! Didn’t mean to post that first one…

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/13 "2002-05-26T21:36:34Z")

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Huh. Did _All You Zombies_ precede _The Man Who Folded Himself_? 'Cos, well, that’s pretty much the same concept.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/14 "2002-05-26T22:54:44Z")

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_All You Zombies_ was written in 1959.

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**Author:** ![Hazel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Hazel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2002, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/having-sex-with-clones/110806/15 "2002-05-27T06:24:37Z")

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“All You Zombies” is quite short. It’s the ultimate in time travel paradox stories.
