# Hawai'ian-kine food party-- help **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 9, 2002, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407 "2002-12-09T01:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/1 "2002-12-09T01:28:05Z")
Ok, I am a now-mainland-haole who spent my junior high and high school days in Pahoa. I’d never gotten into cooking at that age and was more into the pizza lifestyle than the local thing, but in recent months I’ve had a real kind of nostalgic home-sick like feeling (caused by holidays, I suppose) and have decided to throw a Polynesia themed holiday shindig for the edification of my pals who have ever had guava cake or lau lau. Suggestions? Ideas? I’m game for everything between kalua pork and malasadas and spam bento. Also, I was a kid so I have no idea what one drinks in da kine. Primo? Other than tequila with packages of salty plum/ lemon peel added. . . Fire away. (Oh my God. I just thought about breakfast loco mocos. . . now I am truely homesick haole. . .). . . ---
**Author:** ![Nightsong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightsong/32/3083_2.png) [@Nightsong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightsong)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/2 "2002-12-09T02:31:13Z")
Take a look around, see if you can find any Oriental stores in the area: you may luck out and find one of them is more of an Island style than Oriental. (There’s one up in San Mateo, but that’s a wee bit of a drive…;)). Also, Mexican grocery stores tend to carry guava stuff. Guava paste, guava drinks… Heck, even the local Wally-Mart here in Elvis-ville is carrying a house-brand guava drink in their ‘fresh’ juice section! And… [here[/rul] for some crackseed stuff, [url=“http://www.hilohatties.com/”]Hilo Hattie’s](http://www.crackseed.com/)for the truely tacky stuff (Sound on their website! Warning, warning!). Both of these links can be used to get you started on other internet sites, in case you can’t find goodies nearby… Hmmm. What else. Make Chex-mix with li hing mui powder. Make everyone take their shoes off before coming in. Play some good slack-key guitar in the background. Serve chili over rice. Hope I remember ths song lyric right for my sig… * * * \<\< “There’s a dog in Kalihi, and a chicken in the valley… little do they know, they’ll be adobo…” --Frank De Lima \>\> ---
**Author:** ![Nightsong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightsong/32/3083_2.png) [@Nightsong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightsong)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/3 "2002-12-09T02:32:16Z")
And of course, there goes the coding… that’s what I get for tying to type up a post while working on a take-home final. Grrr. ---
**Author:** ![Haywood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Haywood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haywood)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/4 "2002-12-09T02:36:14Z")
Capybara, we lived in Honolulu from 1979 to 1982 and picked up some local tastes. Hawaii enjoys a lot of different cuisines. You might want to add some lumpia for an appetizer and some pancit for a noodle dish. Huli Huli chicken or shoyu chicken always goes over well. If you can find it, you might want to have some poi available, most people have never tried poi. Sticky rice is a requirement for any hawaiian meal. You can wrap some thin spam slices and some rice in seaweed, I don’t know what it is called, maybe because I never acquired a taste for spam wrapped in seaweed. I don’t know if Primo is still made or not, the last I heard the Miller beer company was brewing it. For those who don’t drink don’t forget the Froo’ punch. ---
**Author:** ![SparrowHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@SparrowHawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SparrowHawk)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/5 "2002-12-09T03:29:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Haywood \* > **You can wrap some thin spam slices and some rice in seaweed, I don’t know what it is called, maybe because I never acquired a taste for spam wrapped in seaweed.** Spam musubi! The Hawklette loves it. I don’t. Don’t forget poke and haupia. I like kal bi. Try [this site](http://www.kalaniosullivan.com/General/Opinions-k2a.htm) for some recipes and other ideas. (It’s for homesick military type people in Korea, I think, hence the info on what’s available at “the commissary” and the local groceries.) And don’t forget the music. Some Makaha Sons, Hapa, Na Leo Pilimehana, Brothers Casimero, Shawn Na’auao, lotsa slack key - the Pahinuis, Ray Kane, Led Ka’apana, Keola Beamer. And Bruddah Iz. Oh, what the heck. Check out the list on the top of that site, it’s chock full of goodies. (“Hungry! And I want something quick, yeah I’m hungry! Want something two inches thick! Yeah, I’m hungry! Want something shaped like a brick! SPAM MUSUBI! I wanna grind one spaaaaam musubi!” yah, okay, get Frank de Lima, too. Not sure I remember the song lyrics right, either.) ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/6 "2002-12-09T03:55:00Z")
Did you ever go to Honda’s Delicatessen in Liliha? Masu’s is there now. Honda’s had the best bento fare ever. In my head, I’m picking menu items off a shelf that bears striking resemblance to the ones they had. 🙂 Anyway, I’ll help you out by listing all the stuff I miss: Loco Moco (The Hungry Lion’s. There is no other.) shoyu hot dogs, shoyu chicken, shoyu pork lau lau portuguese sausage or spam or shoyu hotdog musubis (For the hot dogs, you cut 'em in half lengthwise, so they have a flat surface that won’t roll anywhere.) triangular musubis, with furikake sprinkled on it chow mein or chow fun andagi malasadas teriyaki chicken tonkatsu chicken katsu cold somen salad hamburger or chicken long rice mochiko chicken shrimp tempura I don’t think the Primo brand is around anymore, except for on a few T-shirts on a couple guys down in Waianae or Waiamanalo. 😃 I second the fruit punch idea. Some links for you: [http://www2.hawaii.edu/recipes/](http://www2.hawaii.edu/recipes/) [http://www.royalelephant.com/food.shtml](http://www.royalelephant.com/food.shtml) [http://naio.kcc.hawaii.edu/tours/grinds/grinds2.html](http://naio.kcc.hawaii.edu/tours/grinds/grinds2.html) That last link in particular is totally cute. Here’s what I remember of the song: Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree A Filipino Christmas tree! Hear the dogs in the valley (arf arf arf! arf arf arf! arf arf arf arf arf!) And the chiiiiiiicken in Kalihi (bwok bwok bwok! bwok bwok bwok! bwok bwok bwok bwok!) Little do they know they going to be adobo Dinner for the Filipino clan! Oh come, all you people! Joypul and triumpant! [There’s some line about Ewa Beach and Kalihi Uka somewhere here.] You’ll find us in Waipahoo! You’ll find us in Waipahoo! Black dog roasting on an open fire bagaong boiling on de stove… I actually had this song on mp3 once. I wish I remembered it better than that. ---
**Author:** ![Nightsong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightsong/32/3083_2.png) [@Nightsong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightsong)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/7 "2002-12-09T04:29:52Z")
I’ve got the VHS tape with the performance of the song… I should transfer it to a CD one of these days, before the tape degrades. Hey, that’s what **capybara** should do, play Frank’s stuff in the background, along with the music. ---
**Author:** ![SparrowHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@SparrowHawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SparrowHawk)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/8 "2002-12-09T06:51:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AudreyK \* > \*\*Loco Moco (The Hungry Lion’s. There is no other.) \*\* Oh, **Audrey** , you should come back and try Big City Diner’s on Waialae in Kaimuki. Purely in the interest of scientific exploration. I understand their kim chee is to die for, but I am not a kim chee fan. The fried rice is great and the poke… Broke da mout’. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/9 "2002-12-09T08:33:47Z")
**SparrowHawk** , you should try BCD’s ribs - awesome. Their kim chee fried rice is also awesome, for those of us who like that kind of thing. 😉 As far as the party goes, a google search for “coconut mochi” yields a ton of sites, but I don’t know what recipes are good (me being very much a non-cook and all). It is great stuff, though! ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/10 "2002-12-09T10:07:23Z")
**KKB** introduced me to Big City Diner a couple months before we left, **SparrowHawk** , and god, I loved their burgers. Thick and juicy and full of burgery goodness. Mmmm. **capy** , if you have chili, curry, or beef stew, no fo’get fo’ serve 'um on rice, 'kay? 😉 Also, kakimochi and soft ika make great appetizers! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/11 "2002-12-09T11:28:09Z")
AudreyK, excellent song! I live in Waipahu and have never heard that one. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/12 "2002-12-09T14:37:29Z")
Anyone got a good recipe for kalua pork? That’s the shredded pork typically served with rice, right? I developed a taste for that while vacationing in Hawaii, and I’d love to learn how to make it. How do you make the rice that goes with it? IIRC, it ain’t normal white rice - is it glutenous rice? ---
**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/13 "2002-12-09T15:49:55Z")
Isn’t the “trick” behind sticky rice just to use calrose rice and not pre-rinse it so much? Not Uncle Ben’s fluffy non-stick kernels (what is the appeal of that, anyway?). Since the guests have no knowledge of local culture-- i.e. can’t understand a word of pidgin, etc., Frank deLima might be lost on them. . . Mmm. manapua. . . ---
**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/14 "2002-12-09T16:03:03Z")
As far as making real rice, I always get a Japanese brand (I buy Nishiki here in Chicago). I never rinse it through, but just put enough water to cover right above my knuckles when I put my hand on top of it. For some reason, it works out to the right ratio. I asked my mother for a kalua pork recipe last night, oddly enough. She uses a crock pot, to fill the house with mouth-watering aroma. The recipe is basically a 7-8 lb pork butt rubbed with a salt mixture (I’m trying ONO Hawaiian seasoning which is sea salt, cracked pepper, and some other things I can’t remember), a half-cup of water, and a few drops of Liquid Smoke. She sets the crock pot to medium and lets it cook for about 9 hours. Then she pulls the pork apart with forks to shred it. After that, she sautes the pork with some cabbage and onions, and serves over two scoops hot rice. And you can always freeze the leftovers! I personally think pork adobo is the perfect winter pick-me-up. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/15 "2002-12-09T17:46:49Z")
You need a good recipe for macaroni salad! And in a pinch, you can always do macadamia-crusted fish for a touch of home… Hmm. Macadamia nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/16 "2002-12-10T00:42:54Z")
**HubZilla** , it’s Frank DeLima’s Christmas medley. I know KSSK is a fan of Frank’s and I can guarantee you that they’ll play it in the next few weeks. It’s great, because it mentions Waipahu, Kalihi, and Ewa Beach. All in pidgin or with a Filipino accent. 😃 One of the links I posted has a link to a recipe book that _I think_ has a kalua pork recipe. I’m on my way out so I can’t check right now. We buy a Japanese-brand rice (whose name I don’t remember) here in Seattle. The darn thing sells for $20/20lbs, but it’s worth it. Anyway, I rinse it two or three times; it’s more out of habit than necessity or preference. It turns out fine. Back home we used calrose rice, and even with the same rinsing it turned out “sticky”. ---
**Author:** ![SparrowHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@SparrowHawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SparrowHawk)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/17 "2002-12-10T03:18:10Z")
Well, there’s a recipe for kalua pork on the link I put up: > [@](#): > > **Oven Kalua Pig** > > Serving Size : 8 > > 4 pounds pork butt > 1 tablespoon garlic powder > 2 tablespoons Hawaiian salt – divided > 3 1/2 ounces liquid smoke flavoring > 5 1/2 cups water – divided > 1 pound pork skin > 8 ti leaves > > Make several deep slashes around pork butt. Rub garlic powder and 1 tablespoon salt on pork. Pour on liquid smoke. Remove and discard most fat from pork skin. Add 1-1/2 cups water to roasting pan, then line with foil. Lay 4 of the ti leaves on foil. Place pork and skin on leaves. Cover with remaining leaves. Cover tightly with foil. Roast at 400-degrees for 1 hour. Lower temperature to 375-degrees and cook for 4-1/2 hours more or until pork is easy to shred. In large sauce pot bring the remaining 4 cups water to a boil. Add remaining salt. Shred pork and cut skin; add to boiling water. Cover and cook for 15 minutes. I have never made it, so I can’t say how it comes out. I will say I never rinse my calrose rice and it comes out fine, water to rice ratio 2 to 1 for cooking. BCD’s burgers are great (I like the mushroom one). Next time I go, I’ll try the ribs, **KK**. ---
**Author:** ![Rhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhubarb)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hawaiian-kine-food-party-help/141407/18 "2002-12-10T03:29:51Z")
It’s been a loooong time since I was stationed in Hawaii ('78-'80), but doesn’t anyone remember Rap Replinger (Poi Dog)? LMAO funny. Also, you can’t go wrong with huli-huli chicken, it’s no ka oi!