# HBO's Girls

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 2, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593 "2012-05-02T01:16:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/81 "2012-05-30T15:37:38Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> It was so boring I couldn’t even finish epi one.

Why were you even trying to watch television like the rest of us ignoramuses? Wasn’t there a book you should have been reading instead?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/82 "2012-05-30T16:11:01Z")

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Well, I thought the pharmacy guy was very attractive and if he’d asked me out, I’d be suspicious. Which is why I thought he asked her out for nefarious purposes. Adam looks like a dork and acts like an ass, so I do not understand why he has girls all over him.

And his allofasudden “you’re so mean to me” act is total bullshit. Are we forgetting his texting his dick and then saying “oops, that wasn’t for you” or his "don’t talk-just fuck’ or his ‘talk dirty to me but don’t undress, this isn’t about you’ crap?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/83 "2012-05-30T16:27:32Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> And his allofasudden “you’re so mean to me” act is total bullshit. Are we forgetting his texting his dick and then saying “oops, that wasn’t for you” or his "don’t talk-just fuck’ or his ‘talk dirty to me but don’t undress, this isn’t about you’ crap?

I found that pretty believable. Hannah never even tried to get to know him beyond a fuck-buddy level and had never even seen him outside of his apartment, or with a shirt on. As far as he was concerned, this is just some girl that came by for casual sex once in awhile. In his mind, she was just using him - so why not get some things out of it that he wants.

He might be clueless and have zero tact, but you can’t blame him for having that kind of attitude towards their arrangement.

“He’s in AA?”  
“Well, that’s like the main defining thing about him. That, and his love of books.”

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/84 "2012-05-30T16:45:15Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I found that pretty believable. Hannah never even tried to get to know him beyond a fuck-buddy level and had never even seen him outside of his apartment, or with a shirt on. As far as he was concerned, this is just some girl that came by for casual sex once in awhile. In his mind, she was just using him - so why not get some things out of it that he wants.
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> He might be clueless and have zero tact, but you can’t blame him for having that kind of attitude towards their arrangement.
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> “He’s in AA?”  
> “Well, that’s like the main defining thing about him. That, and his love of books.”

Not true. She tried and tried again to deepen their relationship. When she told him straight up she wanted more from him, he fucked her and then told her later, when she thought they were deepening their relationship-- yeah, no. Hell, she even broke up with him about it!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/85 "2012-05-30T17:52:29Z")

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I like the way the series refuses to follow conventional romantic tropes, but the guys in this series are such assholes, it’s hard to see why anyone would be attracted to them. I was amazed when Adam went off with the whole “You never asked!” rant. He had plenty of opportunities to deepen their relationship, never took one of them. What a jerk.

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**Author:** ![jcg23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jcg23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jcg23)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/86 "2012-05-30T18:07:42Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> I like the way the series refuses to follow conventional romantic tropes, but the guys in this series are such assholes, it’s hard to see why anyone would be attracted to them. I was amazed when Adam went off with the whole “You never asked!” rant. He had plenty of opportunities to deepen their relationship, never took one of them. What a jerk.

I think it was just poor writing. It didn’t seem true to the character.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/87 "2012-05-30T22:42:03Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> I like the way the series refuses to follow conventional romantic tropes, but the guys in this series are such assholes, it’s hard to see why anyone would be attracted to them. I was amazed when Adam went off with the whole “You never asked!” rant. He had plenty of opportunities to deepen their relationship, never took one of them. What a jerk.

Did he want to deepen their relationship? I recall Hanna being the one who complained about the lack of depth. Adam then countered by saying that he felt Hanna was never really interested in a deeper relationship, so he kept it superficial because he thought that was what she wanted.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/88 "2012-05-30T22:48:48Z")

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Well no, he didn’t want to deepen the relationship. But then he asked if she wanted him to be her boyfriend-- cut to her smiling like a Cheshire Cat in the back of the cab with him and his bike. They sure made it look as if she got her “boyfriend”. But then again, maybe he just said that because he’s a jerk.

BTW, did anyone notice that last week Hannah was looking pretty? I think that’s why she was dressed as a clown this week-- she was looking a bit too cute.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/89 "2012-05-30T23:00:52Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> I’d say she and Adam are on the same level of attractiveness. He’s just in better shape, but he’s a doofy-looking dude.

He is clearly more attractive than her. Being in good shape is part of attractiveness.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/90 "2012-06-04T05:30:03Z")

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She’s not that fat In fact, if her friends weren’t all. Hollywood skinny no one would comment on her “fatness”. She is funny lookong, makes faces and does a weird thing with her eyes where she sortable unfocuses them and looks retarded.

Also, Adam is probably a serial killer.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/91 "2012-06-04T07:50:51Z")

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Agreed that she’s not that fat. But she is in no way in good shape, not even remotely. He is, but then again I think you’re right that he’s a serial killer.

Speaking of serial killers, the dude from the ill-fated three-way gave me that American Psycho vibe.

The entire second half of this episode it was driving me crazy that [Allison Williams](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4129745/) is the spitting image of another actress but I couldn’t figure out who it was. Winona Ryder? Amanda Peet? Serious facial deja vu, but I never came up with a satisfactory answer. Now I’m thinking maybe it’s [Rebecca Mozo](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3972502016/nm1720113). In any case, Williams is beautiful.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/92 "2012-06-04T13:01:27Z")

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> [@jcg23](#):
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> I think it was just poor writing. It didn’t seem true to the character.

Seems plausible to me.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/93 "2012-06-04T15:32:25Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> She’s not that fat In fact, if her friends weren’t all. Hollywood skinny no one would comment on her “fatness”. She is funny lookong, makes faces and does a weird thing with her eyes where she sortable unfocuses them and looks retarded.
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> Also, Adam is probably a serial killer.

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She’s not that fat. In fact, if all her friends weren’t Hollywood skinny, no one would comment on her “fatness”. She is funny-looking, though. She makes stupid faces and does a weird thing with her eyes where she sort of un-focuses them which makes her look retarded.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/94 "2012-06-04T15:36:13Z")

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Truthfully, you didn’t need to redo that whole sentence. We got the idea.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/95 "2012-06-04T15:43:14Z")

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Yeah but re-reading it was killing me.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/96 "2012-06-05T02:58:42Z")

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Okay, this is starting to grow on me.

“I’ve never been this miserable in my entire life.”

“It’s totally working.”

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/97 "2012-06-05T03:05:49Z")

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“It doesn’t make sense to get out now. There’s pee on you.”

Jessie preferred the old dude at the bar.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/98 "2012-06-05T04:12:47Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> She is funny-looking, though. She makes stupid faces and does a weird thing with her eyes where she sort of un-focuses them which makes her look retarded.

It finally hit me in this episode. Kevin James. All I see when I look at her face now is Kevin James.

It’s ironic, by the way, how much time is spent discussing the looks of actors who \*don’t \*trade on their looks.

This episode didn’t come together for me somehow. I think I’m tired of ‘you need to live a little’ storylines in general. Let those boring people be boring in peace.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/99 "2012-06-05T07:03:12Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> It’s ironic, by the way, how much time is spent discussing the looks of actors who \*don’t \*trade on their looks.

Not really. It’s in the context of the ugly main character getting the hot significant other simply because it’s their show. Much hay was made about this phenomenon from Seinfeld, King of Queens, etc… Even though Jerry Seinfeld and Kevin James don’t trade on their looks, it wasn’t ironic that their looks were discussed in the context of the hot chicks they got on their shows.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/100 "2012-06-05T11:12:36Z")

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On _Seinfeld_ it was George that was the most notable—the short, bespectacled, chubby, bald loser who had a series of hot girlfriends.

> [@EllisDee](#):
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> He is clearly more attractive than her. Being in good shape is part of attractiveness.

But an ugly man doesn’t necessarily get more attractive just because he gets in shape.

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