# HBO's Girls

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 2, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593 "2012-05-02T01:16:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/101 "2012-06-05T22:14:09Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> On _Seinfeld_ it was George that was the most notable—the short, bespectacled, chubby, bald loser who had a series of hot girlfriends.

Even still, the looks of Jason Alexander were discussed even though he doesn’t trade on his looks.

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> But an ugly man doesn’t necessarily get more attractive just because he gets in shape.

Yes he does, absolutely. He may still be ugly but he’s more attractive after he gets in shape.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/102 "2012-06-06T01:16:37Z")

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I realize this attractive enough pissing contest is within the scope of the thread, but you guys do realize you’re debating the relative attractiveness of [these](http://www.google.com/search?q=adam+driver&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=NK7OT6y1CeTa0QGxn9SUCA&biw=1440&bih=744&sei=Nq7OT_qkKMbs0gG6w8yXCA) [two](http://www.google.com/search?q=Top+500+Adam+Driver&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Bq7OT-Asge_SAfnnybsI&biw=1440&bih=744&sei=CK7OT9OGM4L10gGNwcmYCA#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&channel=rcs&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=lena+dunham&oq=lena&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.3.0.0l10.19836.20580.0.21932.4.4.0.0.0.0.152.509.1j3.4.0...0.0.JiLj7SLDezA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=5f4d9466cf29eaee&biw=1440&bih=744) people, right? Looks are subjective and all, but as far as I can see they’re both pretty much on the same level. He works out and she doesn’t. That’s about the only difference I can see. She’s not fat, she’s just not fit. Then again, I also don’t think the other girls are a size “Hollywood ZERO!” so many people on the dope like to talk about.

For me the most ridiculous part of the show so far is that this guy who is now suddenly her boyfriend wanted nearly nothing to do with her in the first six episodes. In a few of the first ones her friends gave her the shame face for even talking about him while reminding her that he never calls her, rarely texts her back, and only lets her come over to his apartment when he was horny. When we saw them on screen together he was dismissive, somewhat cruel and fairly weird with her. Now we’re supposed to just accept that he wants to be around her all the time and paper a cinder block wall in “SORRY” to impress her? I’m not buying it.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/103 "2012-06-06T12:27:18Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> For me the most ridiculous part of the show so far is that this guy who is now suddenly her boyfriend wanted nearly nothing to do with her in the first six episodes. In a few of the first ones her friends gave her the shame face for even talking about him while reminding her that he never calls her, rarely texts her back, and only lets her come over to his apartment when he was horny. When we saw them on screen together he was dismissive, somewhat cruel and fairly weird with her. Now we’re supposed to just accept that he wants to be around her all the time and paper a cinder block wall in “SORRY” to impress her? I’m not buying it.

When you get to write your own fairy tale, you get to tame the bad boy and bring him home.

The explanation was _somewhat_ plausible. Though I didn’t buy it entirely either, I buy it just enough to go with it.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/104 "2012-06-06T18:43:36Z")

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I’m buying it for now, but I won’t buy it if it goes on like this for very long.

Trust me, for the ugly and weird, any dude doing anything remotely sweet towards you can be a real turn on.

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**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/105 "2012-06-06T19:08:47Z")

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Every time I see Adam I think “Gilligan.” Anybody else? 😛

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/106 "2012-06-06T19:14:32Z")

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> [@kath94](#):
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> Every time I see Adam I think “Gilligan.” Anybody else? 😛

A little more [Maynard G. Krebs](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__qG3uGNAsas/TJBP6BXvVhI/AAAAAAAABc0/CyG9plh37K8/s320/maynard.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/107 "2012-06-06T20:30:12Z")

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At first I didn’t buy the “I always really liked you” bullshit either but then Adam is so erratic and borderline schzo, his big swing from dismissive and disinterested to boyfriend wasn’t such a big deal.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/108 "2012-06-12T01:20:19Z")

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Hannah doesn’t think that being a good friend is a priority right now? What a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/109 "2012-06-12T20:29:24Z")

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The fight between Hannah and Marnie is one of the few scenes in the series so far that has rang true with me and my experience of once being a girl that age. The pent up annoyances that girls hold on to that finally just come spilling out in the worst way.

If I had to relate to anyone on that show, I do a little with Marnie. I had a friend who was a bit like Hannah (not the caricature the writer has created, a toned down version) and she was like that. Marnie didn’t really want to talk to Hannah but since Hannah wanted to fight, they were going to fight. She followed Marnie from room to room to keep it going and ratchet it up the anger.

Everyone has good points and bad points but I’ve got to agree with **Acsenray** , Hannah is a bitch.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/110 "2012-06-12T23:27:14Z")

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They’re both self-centered. They’re both right. I didn’t know who’s side to take. I guess the one who pays all the bills has the higher ground.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/111 "2012-06-12T23:56:38Z")

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What is Hannah right about?

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/112 "2012-06-13T03:17:50Z")

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Marnie is also pretty darn self-involved, going on and on about her boyfriend whose touch disgusts her and then pining away for him after he dumps her.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/113 "2012-06-13T04:18:19Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Marnie is also pretty darn self-involved, going on and on about her boyfriend whose touch disgusts her and then pining away for him after he dumps her.

He didn’t dump her. He tried to dump her being understandably upset when he found out his touch skeeved her. And then she begged him to take her back. Begged and begged and fucked him in order to get him back. And then, when his touch skeeved her in the middle of sex-- she dumped him.

I’m sorry. There is no excuse for what she did to him. She deserves every bit of anguish she’s going through.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/114 "2012-06-13T07:12:09Z")

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Oh right, I forgot about that. That make s her pining away even more insufferable.

Oddly enough I like her character, but that’s probably just because I’m so shallow.

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**Author:** ![Mint\_Julep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@Mint\_Julep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mint_Julep)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/115 "2012-06-13T16:08:57Z")

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Count me in the, I-like-this-show crowd. My guy also thinks it is funny. I must agree that Shoshanna is my fav but I enjoy all of the characters.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/116 "2012-06-14T06:14:00Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> I’m sorry. There is no excuse for what she did to him. She deserves every bit of anguish she’s going through.

I have to say, of all the insufferable, annoying characters on this show, both male and female, Marnie is the one who annoys me the most.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/117 "2012-06-14T13:18:01Z")

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I’m kind of annoyed - I caught onto this show kind of late so I’m trying to go back and watch them On Demand (Comcast). I watched episode 1, episode 2, and then … no episodes 3 or 4. They have all the rest of them up (5-9, of which I’ve seen most), but are missing 3 and 4! Annoying.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/118 "2012-06-14T13:39:50Z")

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> [@Mint\_Julep](#):
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> I must agree that Shoshanna is my fav but I enjoy all of the characters.

I realize she’s _supposed_ to be annoying to serve as comic relief (inasmuch as a half-hour comedy show needs “comic relief”), but I find her character nearly unbearable. It’s like they made a rough prototype of a female android with a brain powered by an AOL chatroom.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/119 "2012-06-14T15:53:06Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> I’m kind of annoyed - I caught onto this show kind of late so I’m trying to go back and watch them On Demand (Comcast). I watched episode 1, episode 2, and then … no episodes 3 or 4. They have all the rest of them up (5-9, of which I’ve seen most), but are missing 3 and 4! Annoying.

If you have Comcast, do you have a way to access HBOGO, either via a tablet, iPhone, or Xbox? I think you can also just go to [www.hbogo.com](http://www.hbogo.com) and access it there, if you have a cable subscription w/ HBO added (and it sounds like you do).

HBO GO will let you watch any episode of just about every series HBO has put out over the last 10-15 years.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hbos-girls/620593/120 "2012-06-14T23:06:17Z")

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Good idea, I’ll try that.

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