# HDMI 2.0 is coming

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 8, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348 "2013-09-08T19:39:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/21 "2013-09-10T09:03:50Z")

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What I’m excited about is this auto lip-sync feature. Not sure how it works yet, but it sure can’t be any worse than the current situation. My new HDTV has a picture lag of about 200ms, more than any audio delay in my Blu-ray player can compensate. It’s driving me nuts. The choice is either stereo audio over the TV’s output (which is adjusted for delay) or surround audio that’s way, way early. Anyway, so any change to that situation is much appreciated!

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**Author:** ![Virgil\_Tibbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Virgil\_Tibbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Virgil_Tibbs)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/22 "2013-09-10T15:06:42Z")

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I won’t be able to afford this or have any need for it for at least 10 years. Indeed, I’m thinking about getting a smaller TV anyway.

Current HDMI standards do all I want and more.

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**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/23 "2013-09-10T17:54:53Z")

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So does the new standard mean new cables? I still have some cables I’ve never used.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/24 "2013-09-10T17:59:13Z")

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> [@Virgil\_Tibbs](#):
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> I won’t be able to afford this or have any need for it for at least 10 years. Indeed, I’m thinking about getting a smaller TV anyway.
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> Current HDMI standards do all I want and more.

“1080p is more pixels than anyone will ever need on a TV.”

\*–\*\*Virgil Tibbs \*_(poss. apocryphal)_

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/25 "2013-09-10T18:03:16Z")

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> [@AaronX](#):
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> So does the new standard mean new cables? I still have some cables I’ve never used.

Newer protocol, same cables.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/26 "2013-09-10T22:11:55Z")

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> [@Virgil\_Tibbs](#):
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> Current HDMI standards do all I want and more.

Says someone who must never desire using closed captions.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/27 "2013-09-11T21:02:26Z")

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I haven’t seen anything mentioned about [HDCP](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection) and HDMI2.0. The latest HDCP 2.x is supposedly for “newer” types of devices, I’m wondering if the HDMI2.0 stuff will qualify.

HDCP is a royal pain for some people. And since you can buy $30 gizmos that get around it from major online retailers (just not labeled as such), it doesn’t really stop the pirates. Just makes some regular folk unhappy. Especially the people who bought HDMI input TVs in the very early days before HDCP came out.

Another round of “screw the people owning existing hardware” is not really needed.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/28 "2013-09-11T23:01:44Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That’s me; the eternal optimist.
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> BTW, I just tried it. Comcast has simplified the process of enabling captions, so that it only required about half a dozen button presses. That’s better than the old process:  
> Turn on the TV  
> Turn off the DVR  
> Press the Menu button, on the Comcast remote (or on the Comcast box)  
> You will see the USER SETTING screen on your TV  
> Move down to the CLOSED CAPTIONS entry using the arrow buttons  
> Press the right-arrow to switch between ENABLED and DISABLED  
> Press the Menu button  
> Turn on the DVR
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> Easy as pie!

Yeah, for me the real bugger about the old way was that you had to turn the box off to turn captions on/off. Real helpful when you’re recording on one or both tuners and want to toggle the captions on a recording you’re watching… :rolleyes:

Now if only they’d update it so you don’t have to turn the box off to change the output resolution (my dad’s old non-DVR HD comcast cable box could do this with a single button press, but not the DVR…)

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “1080p is more pixels than anyone will ever need on a TV.”
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> \*–\*\*Virgil Tibbs \*_(poss. apocryphal)_

And it’s more than you’re likely to ever get from a cable/sat provider. They just don’t have the bandwidth to deliver anything higher than 1080i. And even 1080i and 720p have to be compressed to hell.

Unless you have something like a Bluray player, computer, streaming media box, or game console hooked up to your TV, 1080p is more than you’ll ever need. But obviously there are a lot of people banking on those sort of things taking over.

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/29 "2013-11-15T03:25:38Z")

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I didn’t think this was worth a new thread so I’m resurrecting this one.

[Netflix is testing out streaming for the new 4k Ultra HD standard.](http://www.techhive.com/article/2060494/netflix-testing-4k-ultrahd-video-streaming.html)

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> It’s unclear how much bandwidth 4K will use. Super HD requires bandwidth between 5 Mbps and 7 Mbps. By next year, however, development of [a new video codec called HEVC or H.265](http://www.pcworld.com/article/2033462/hevc-video-compression-halves-bitrate-keeps-quality-the-same.html) should help immensely, as it reportedly halves the bitrate of H.264 video without a noticeable loss of image quality.

There’s nothing really yet to watch but if you thought that it would be impossible to stream 4k, it looks like it might not be.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hdmi-2-0-is-coming/668348/30 "2013-11-15T03:37:10Z")

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> [@deltasigma](#):
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> What I want to know is, if they’re charging [over 200 bucks for a 2m cable](http://www.bing.com/shopping/audioquest-carbon-2m-6-56-ft-braided-hdmi-cable/p/F26BD166E42EA70B5006?q=audioquest+hdmi+cable&lpf=0&lpq=audioquest%2bhdmi%2bcable&FORM=EGCA) now - which I assume is just HDMI 1.4 - then Jesus, what are they going to try to butt rape me for when they might have something approaching a legit excuse for charging a little more?

[Go for generic - $5.79](http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-Meters/dp/B003L1ZYYM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384486528&sr=8-1&keywords=hdmi+cable). Should work just fine.

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