# "He cheated on \[Hot Chick\]? What an idiot!"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 3, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905 "2009-12-03T22:47:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/41 "2009-12-04T17:59:38Z")

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> [@Rala](#):
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> But “What does he do for a living?” _is_ about his personality. It’s one of the questions you ask when you’re getting to know someone because it can tell you a lot about him. How he spends a large portion of his week, what he’s interested in, where his talents lie, where he wants his life to go, etc. I wouldn’t assume that his job tells me everything I need to know or that all the conclusions I draw must be accurate, but it’s a good place to start.
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> At least, that’s what I mean when I ask that. I might just be naïve.

The equivalently shallow woman cares more for the length of the bank balance than the length of anything else. The assumption of those who are surprised by Tiger seems to be that the amount of satisfaction is directly proportional to the hotness of the partner, not anything else. That’s plenty shallow.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/42 "2009-12-04T18:02:20Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Are you most men?

More than you probably think (31 years and counting for me.) Instead of prime rib vs McDonalds, consider it eating at a place where the chef knows your tastes and likes perfectly, rather than a random hash joint, no matter how attractive the decor.

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**Author:** ![FallenAngel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@FallenAngel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FallenAngel)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/43 "2009-12-04T19:21:21Z")

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While I certainly don’t agree with the sentiment, since I’m happy and exclusive with my wife, the T-shirt slogan, “No matter how hot she is, there’s at least one guy who’s sick of her shit,” pretty much sums up the mindset you’re looking for.

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**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/44 "2009-12-04T19:51:00Z")

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I read recently that plenty of people who cheat are happy in their marriages. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if this was the case with Tiger. I don’t think he needs to be sick of his wife. It could just be his ego getting the best of him and thinking he can get away with anything, since in most aspects of his life he’s wildly successful.

I agree that a woman who’s not independently wealthy and leaves a rich guy for an irregularly employed layabout\* is going to get the same deal. A woman who leaves a remarkably handsome guy for an ugly guy of similar means will probaby also get some of the same.

- Sure, it’s not Tiger Woods money, but plumber is not the best example, IMHO.

ETA: Also, I realize Dan Savage is a professional, but I think he missed the boat on that one. Sometimes I don’t think he gets straight couples all that well. It sounds to me like that guy wants to have sex with someone he doesn’t, and doesn’t have to, respect. Not any more honorable, but I don’t see him getting in touch with his inner love for “trashy” women.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/45 "2009-12-04T20:09:46Z")

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Cheat on ugly wife = immoral

cheat on hottie wife = immoral + stupid

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/46 "2009-12-04T20:19:40Z")

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> [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](#):
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> I read recently that plenty of people who cheat are happy in their marriages. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if this was the case with Tiger. I don’t think he needs to be sick of his wife. It could just be his ego getting the best of him and thinking he can get away with anything, since in most aspects of his life he’s wildly successful.
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> I agree that a woman who’s not independently wealthy and leaves a rich guy for an irregularly employed layabout\* is going to get the same deal. A woman who leaves a remarkably handsome guy for an ugly guy of similar means will probaby also get some of the same.
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> - Sure, it’s not Tiger Woods money, but plumber is not the best example, IMHO.
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> ETA: Also, I realize Dan Savage is a professional, but I think he missed the boat on that one. Sometimes I don’t think he gets straight couples all that well. It sounds to me like that guy wants to have sex with someone he doesn’t, and doesn’t have to, respect. Not any more honorable, but I don’t see him getting in touch with his inner love for “trashy” women.

Gotta agree, particularly with the last part. Sounds like what turns the guy in the Savage article’s crank is having sex with women he can despise (and, presumably, treat like shit while feeling superior to). It isn’t that the guy is too cowardly to admit he likes chubby women - it’s that he has a sadistic streak. The perfect partner for him isn’t a bold and beautiful self-confidently bigger lady for a loving relationship - such a woman wouldn’t have much interest for him; what he wants, seemingly, is a ‘trashy’ maschocist.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/47 "2009-12-04T20:52:23Z")

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> [@Ruminator](#):
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> The quote isn’t meant for you. The quote is to help other men knock their fantasy women down a peg and get a reality check.

But what man who realizes women are three-dimensional human beings wouldn’t already acknowledge that they may be flawed, however gorgeous (as if it’s dependent on that)? Like people who caution men not to ‘put pussy on a pedestal’ (ugh), it manages to veer too far in the other direction.

This thread is sort of depressing. I hadn’t realized how many people were simply settling. I am no prude and have nothing against consensual NSA sex, but you’d think with all the suicidal lottery winners, unhappy millionaires and escort tell-alls out there it’d be pretty clear that having nothing but random encounters is about as fulfilling as an endless coke supply (and both can give you hepatitis).

As for the Savage thing, he may be slightly off the mark, but the fact remains that whatever the writer is turned on by, it isn’t his conventionally attractive wife. So if/when he cheats on her, I imagine his friends will wonder WTF and, perhaps, assume she wasn’t doing her wifely duty or he was tired of ‘putting up’ with her shit.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/48 "2009-12-05T01:52:57Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#):
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> That’s exactly what people would be saying. They’d also be giving it as little thought as they give “He cheated on a hot chick?” which is almost none.

If a man is caught sleeping with a woman less attractive than his wife, people either assume that the wife is a frigid or a bitch, or that the man is out of his mind.

If a woman is caught sleeping with a man less well-off than her husband, people either assume that the lover is exceptionally good in bed, or that the woman is a slutty bitch.

In other words, the situations are not evaluated the same way, IMO. Not saying one is better than the other, but they are different.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/49 "2009-12-05T14:20:03Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Guys who say that aren’t thinking at all in terms of what the woman “deserves.” They’re just wondering why he would feel the _need_ to sleep around. Why go out for McDonalds if you’ve got prime rib at home?

Of course if the home kitchen’s been closed for six months, that side of fries starts looking a whole lot better.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/50 "2009-12-05T14:27:33Z")

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> [@Discipline](#):
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> The only thing close to what you’re thinking is that it does seem to imply an assumption that pretty girls are exactly as amazing in the sack as we fantasize them to be.

Right. Guy wants girl because she is pretty, guy fucks girl and grows bored with the fuckage. Being pretty does not make one the world’s greatest lover, or even half decent.

> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> So what did these assortment of cocktail waitresses and hostesses have to offer that Tiger’s wife (an ex-nanny) didn’t?

> [@JFLuvly](#):
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> Better Sex?

Ding! Ding! Ding!

> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> If you ate prime rib every day, for breakfast, lunch and dinner, 375 days a year, for 10 years, you might just _want_ McDonalds, or Arby’s, or Red Lobster, or a cup of yogurt, etc.

That, and also it is not necessarily “prime rib” because it looks pretty.

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t, and I’ve been with the same woman for 20 years.

Okay, Mr. I-Can’t-Work-Up-Enough-Passion-About-Sex-To-Take-My-Shirt-Off-Half-The-Time, some people can get incredibly bored and may want to add little excitement to their lives and bedrooms.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-cheated-on-hot-chick-what-an-idiot/519905/51 "2009-12-05T17:43:34Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> This wasn’t particularly funny or insightful the first time I read it on the SDMB, and it certainly isn’t the 20th. I have no sympathy for anyone stupid enough to believe looks and morality match up, or that all gorgeous people have free passes to be assholes, or that having to ‘put up with someone’s shit’ is an excuse to cheat.

Oh noes. I have been upbraided! Whatever shall I do?

:rolleyes:

Look past the end of your nose long enough to realize that I agree with you.

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