# He didn't change his mind on the mandate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2013, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666 "2013-10-08T08:17:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/21 "2013-10-08T16:27:46Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Nah, all it means is that anything he says about the health care law can be assumed to be a lie. What a fucking tool you are. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/22 "2013-10-08T16:36:52Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I will! Me too. I intend to vote early, and vote often. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/23 "2013-10-08T16:38:44Z")
The cite that opposes my cite is from a prominent liberal journalist, as opposed to my nonpartisan cite. The fact that the board liberals jumped on it as proof of anything at all says that this board is filled with morons, and I’m not one of them. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/24 "2013-10-08T16:40:31Z")
And if any random poster named BObama came on this board and made the claims about the health care law that the President does, he’d quickly be disregarded as an idiot. Although the credulous acceptance of liberal activist Ryan Lizza’s article, which just HAPPENS to make the President look good on the issue at hand, says that maybe I’m wrong about that. Maybe any liberal twaddle is accepted on this board. It’s starting to look that way. Wasn’t always so. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/25 "2013-10-08T16:43:28Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > this board is filled with morons, and I’m not one of them. This should be your sig. It’s hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/26 "2013-10-08T16:47:20Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The cite that opposes my cite is from a prominent liberal journalist This is factually inaccurate- Lizza is a non-partisan journalist. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/27 "2013-10-08T16:48:42Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The cite that opposes my cite is from a prominent liberal journalist, as opposed to my nonpartisan cite. > > The fact that the board liberals jumped on it as proof of anything at all says that this board is filled with morons, and I’m not one of them. As noted in the other thread about your persistent wrongness, Lizza not only cites his sources but puts the full text of one of them smack dab in the middle of the article. Your move, Bizarro. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/28 "2013-10-08T16:50:43Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > 20 quatloos on the idiot! 30 on the moron! ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/29 "2013-10-08T16:53:19Z")
I thought \*\*aceplace57 \*\*was the dumbest guy around here lately, but you’re edging him out **adaher**. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/30 "2013-10-08T16:55:56Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I thought \*\*aceplace57 \*\*was the dumbest guy around here lately, but you’re edging him out **adaher**. He’s not edging him out. He’s already lapped him twice and is going for a third. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/31 "2013-10-08T16:56:14Z")
[Moderating] **Adaher** , I’ve added some quote boxes to your OP. In the future, please make sure you indicate which material is in your own words, and which is a quote from another source. No warning issued. [/Moderting] ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/32 "2013-10-08T17:09:47Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > … The fact that the board liberals jumped on it as proof of anything at all says that this board is filled with morons, and _I’m not one of them_… Once again you’re utilizing fabricated data points to support a disingenous conclusion (ie You’re not a moron). On a positive note, I recognize your ability to be wrong so consistently could be an exploitable natural phenomena with many actually creditable applications, such as possibly replacing the [Naval Observatory Atomic Clock.](http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/) I’ll advise my congress critter of this possible cost saving measure immediately. Of course, you’ll have to be stored behind thick plate glass to prevent your inherent wrongness from permeating the counting of said activity. A small sacrifice to finally find a way to use your “unique” talent in making a positive contribution to society. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/33 "2013-10-08T17:22:59Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Oh, great. They’re competing. No matter who wins, we \*all \*lose! I don’t think the word “lie” means what \*\*adaher \*\*thinks it means. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/34 "2013-10-08T17:23:55Z")
Guys, its great that you’re putting a brave face on this, but the reality is dire. We’re doomed, no two ways about it. The outrage is spreading across the country like mildfire. It happens, and we must accept it when it does. It’s going along with much promise and hope, and then suddenly a shattering scandal is revealed, and all our dreams are just so much dust. Hell, the slogans write themselves! “Obama Lied, Nobody Died, But Still!” Really, what’s the point of even pretending? Without Hillary or Obama, both of whom are deeply complicit, we have no candidate that can stand against the national groundswell for President-to-be Cruz. We are _soooo_ boned! ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/35 "2013-10-08T17:31:01Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Guys, its great that you’re putting a brave face on this, but the reality is dire. We’re doomed, no two ways about it. The outrage is spreading across the country like mildfire. Props for the phrase “mildfire”. Yours, or did you borrow it? ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/36 "2013-10-08T17:32:08Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > No matter who wins, we \*all \*lose! > I don’t think the word “lie” means what \*\*adaher \*\*thinks it means. I think that if Adaher knew what the word “lie” meant, he’d have trouble looking in the mirror long enough to shave. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/37 "2013-10-08T17:53:21Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > 20 quatloos on the idiot! > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > 30 on the moron! Pick a side, already! :rolleyes: We can’t take that bet until you pick your idiot. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/38 "2013-10-08T18:54:14Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > **Adaher** , I’ve added some quote boxes to your OP. In the future, please make sure you indicate which material is in your own words, and which is a quote from another source. > > No warning issued. > [/Moderting] That’s asking a lot of the little fella. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/39 "2013-10-08T18:58:39Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The cite that opposes my cite is from a prominent liberal journalist, as opposed to my nonpartisan cite. So which of the factual assertions in it are incorrect? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/40 "2013-10-08T20:29:57Z")
The outdated, selectively released memo to an administration supporter designed to explain his flip-flop in the most positive way possible. What his advisors are saying now, they re free to say since of course it doesn’t matter anymore. If they’d had such loose lips a year ago, then liberal Dopers would have had to bend over backwards defending their guy. Now they can just laugh it off. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666.md?page=3)