# He didn't change his mind on the mandate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2013, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666 "2013-10-08T08:17:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 104
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666/104 "2013-10-11T06:05:15Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I’ll be interested in hearing your excuses when de Blasio goes a long way towards reversing those gains. Awww, what happened? I thought you weawwy, weawwy hoped bad things wouldn’t happen to New York because you wanted ever so much to visit? For those who didn’t read this thread, **adaher** said the divisive Democratic primary was bringing “Balkanized” politics back to New York City. Polls currently show de Blasio with a lead of about 50 points. I guess that’s similar to the Balkan nation of Landslidevania. > [@](#): > > Cities don’t go broke because of the decline of an industry, unless they used the good times to be profligate and then failed to cut back when there were signs of trouble. How can I not take you at your word here? 😛 Yes, the city went broke primarily because of the collapse of the auto industry, which was a huge part of its economy, and ensuing decades of white flight that depleted its population and tax base. There were certainly many other problems and Detroit had a lot of bad leadership. Your initial claim in the Elections thread was that New York City a few decades ago was pretty much just like Detroit except it started electing Republicans who fixed its problems. Even though I don’t know much about Detroit, I had no trouble showing that that was wrong on every level. Even at its worst, New York’s crime was never at Detroit levels - and I mean New York vs. Detroit at the same time, not then vs. now - and it never suffered a severe population drain like Detroit did. The city was in trouble, but not that kind of trouble. Republicans didn’t stop New York City from turning into Detroit. It was just never going to happen. > [@adaher](#): > > And you are apparently unaware that links change as they are updated. At the time I posted, Romney did in fact lead in most polls. Which meant nothing, you simpering moron. This is why people like Nate Silver understood that Obama was always highly likely to win and people like you were either ignoring polls that didn’t tell them what they wanted to hear or made statements like ‘Gee whiz, Nate Silver sure has bet his reputation on this one!’ You were aware of advanced analysis of the polls, so you can’t claim ignorance. You didn’t believe it and you were dead wrong. I could go on, but your posts from that time are sort of a delicious sampler of everything Republicans misunderstood about that election. > [@Is it too early to say Romney has lost?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-early-to-say-romney-has-lost/635066/1705): > > No one’s made money betting against the polls, but that does not mean they are always right. Most of them are working on the assumption that 2008 will see growth in minority turnout comparable to the last few Presidential elections. Problem is, 2008 saw a big jump in minority turnout and a big fall in white turnout, so it’s more likely that the electorate in 2012 will look more like the 2004 electorate than the 2008 electorate. > [@Is it too early to say Romney has lost?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-early-to-say-romney-has-lost/635066/1546): > > Pennsylvania is in play, and if Romney were to win that one, he doesn’t need Ohio nearly as much. > > Romney now has almost as many paths to victory as Obama does. > [@Is it too early to say Romney has lost?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-early-to-say-romney-has-lost/635066/1023): > > I think Democratic turnout will be closer to 2004 levels than 2008. > [@Is it too early to say Romney has lost?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-early-to-say-romney-has-lost/635066/1380): > > I’m going to go out on a limb and make a prediction: Romney wins Ohio 51-48. Reason: The polls in Ohio are skewed by Obama voters falsely claiming to have voted when they haven’t. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-didnt-change-his-mind-on-the-mandate/670666)._