He didn't change his mind on the mandate

for adaher, the occurrence of of the string ‘obama’ MEANS “lie and/or Socialism within”.

Don’t bother arguing with it.

He flip-flopped. That much is not in dispute, right?

So why did he flip-flop? My article, the more recent one, says that it was political opportunism. He just needed to differentiate himself from Clinton. There is no evidence other than his stated position that he ever intended to keep that particular promise. He lied.

Recognizing that you have a problem is the first step towards recovery, it is not recovery in itself.

See, you’re wrong.:slight_smile:

Sure, he changed his mind.

No, he changed his mind, like you said.

Right after beating Hillary Clinton? That’s awfully convenient. And then he chose not to share his change of heart with his young supporters? Not very honest of the guy.

Hooooooooon-es-ty
Is such a looonely word
Espe-cial-lyyyyyy
When you’re a kettle
(With apologies to the piano man)

Seriously Addy, if you’re going to try and cast aspersions on someone else’s integrity, maybe you should learn what it is first ?

I seem to recall the “right after” bit is in question. You might have missed the discussion about it. It was upthread a tad.

There was no discussion, only an older cite by what I pointed out was a partisan journalist. Glenn Thrush> Ryan Lizza as a source.

Honestly, the fact that someone like you feels this way makes this forum infinitely better than the large number of shitfests where idiots like you don’t get called on their bullshit.

Lizza is not a partisan journalist, and your opinion on his merits as a journalist (by calling him partisan it’s already clear that you’re not familiar with him) is not relevant. You are incorrect.

Other forums call out the arguments. This one calls out the poster. Which BTW, is against the rules outside the Pit. Which makes it a shitfest.

Posters who constantly spout garbage, don’t learn from their mistakes, and don’t admit when they’ve been shown incorrect should be called out. If other forums don’t do that, that’s a mark against them.

But the links changed! so he was probably right about everything, ever.

Perhaps you missed this exchange:

I think you’re making real progress. Just a few weeks ago you would have concluded that everything Obama ever said about anything can be assumed to be a lie.

So you’re a concern troll in addition to being an ignoramus.

What about forums like this one, where they call you out before actually even proving you wrong, or seize on a misunderstanding of what was actually said to attempt to discredit a poster?

I have never seen more moderator warnings on a forum than here, and the crazy thing is that they are barely scratching the surface of the dickery that goes on here.

Getting so heated in a discussion forum that you need to attack another poster betrays serious emotional stability issues.

Quit whining, ya big baby.

Heh. I can take it. Sometimes I even deserve it(like with the predictions of Romney’s victory). But if someone starts “calling me out” when they haven’t even done the simple due diligence of you know, actually PROVING their case, then I’m going to call them out for their bullshit.

I recognize that posters slamming each other is just part of the culture of this board. So I’ll join in the fun when given the opportunity. Because some of you really need to be brought down a few pegs. Your bullshit goes unchallenged, and many of the things that get said here are Bachmann-level stupid.

You might be right, as it’s beginning to seem like replying to your posts is akin to pulling the wings off of flies. Maybe I do need to get professional help…

Naaaaw. I’ll buy you a tube of super glue so you can fix the wings and we’ll call it good?