# He has to free the J6ers, right? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 22, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613 "2024-11-22T15:11:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/81 "2024-11-26T00:34:37Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > She wrote that is “consistent with the Government’s understanding that the immunity afforded to a sitting President is temporary, expiring when they leave office.” Thank you. This clarifies ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/82 "2024-11-26T01:30:20Z")
He doesn’t have to but he will because it will infuriate his enemies and embolden his violent supporters. If y know your going to get pardoned you will be a lot more willing to cause an “accident” to happen. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/83 "2024-11-26T01:54:28Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Those state militias are just that, part of the state. They are not connected to the federal military at all and can not be federalized. Correct- at least as far as I know- ianal. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/84 "2024-11-26T02:19:53Z")
My guess is that Trump will have Project 2025ers “advising” him. They’ll get him to issue the pardons at a time when they want the media to focus on stuff like this while they try to remake the government in Trump’s image. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/85 "2024-11-26T04:07:04Z")
> [@LoneRhino](#): > > Project 2025ers “advising” him. They’ll get him to issue the pardons at a time when they want the media to focus on stuff like this while they try to remake the government in Trump’s image. While they try to remake the government _in P2025’s image_ while _putting the Trump brand on it_ so he gets the publicity without having to do any work, but getting to gloat about how great it is, like it were a golf resort. ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/86 "2024-11-26T09:31:37Z")
really, a Trump-appointed DOJ? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/87 "2024-11-26T11:41:29Z")
Well, he can’t replace all those in the department than less enthused to take orders from a MAGAt. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/88 "2024-11-26T11:58:41Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > And I still believe trump is guilty of manslaughter in the deaths of she who got shot, and she who got trampled to death. I’d say felony murder. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/89 "2024-11-26T12:20:58Z")
When he left office the last time, the price of a pardon was $1million. I suspect that inflation will apply now. But if the J6er is poor? He’ll gladly let them rot. As for satisfying his base, he has no intention of running again. He’s made it clear that there will be no need to vote in the future. He considers himself to have a mandate as “President for Life” and he intends to set up the military leadership to support him in that. I’ve always said that the politician he most resembles is Marion Barry. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/90 "2024-11-26T14:12:55Z")
I think it’s almost guaranteed he will pardon j6ers in the first month of his presidency. Question now is…is Biden going to pardon Hunter ? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/91 "2024-11-26T14:19:07Z")
I hope so. He said he wouldn’t, but who cares? It would be as nothing compared to the crowd of abject criminals that trump pardoned. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/92 "2024-11-26T14:19:09Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > I’ve always said that the politician he most resembles is Marion Barry. Up to and including (or maybe especially so) the fanatical idolatry from his supporters in spite of everything. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/93 "2024-11-26T21:53:08Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > He’s made it clear that there will be no need to vote in the future. I’m 99% certain that what he meant by that was “I won’t be running, so why should anyone care?” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/94 "2024-11-30T14:40:03Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I don’t see any way around it. His way around it is just not doing it. Or just pardoning a few. It makes no difference to him. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/95 "2024-12-01T02:21:09Z")
My intuition/ gut feeling is he will pardon all j6ers ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/96 "2024-12-02T14:27:25Z")
The grandiose gesture of a sweeping 6Jan pardon is irresistible political theater. I believe it will be his first public act. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/97 "2024-12-02T14:32:16Z")
I agree. Imo it will be one of the first acts of Trump after he formally assumes office. And I feel it may be a sweeping blanket pardon for all j6 accused like Hunter’s pardon. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/98 "2024-12-02T23:36:56Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > This is a man who no longer feels any obligation to keep any promise he has ever made to anyone. But I don’t think that anyone here is suggesting that he would do so out of a sense of obligation, compassion, gratitude or loyalty. If Trump pardons them it will be because doing so is good for Trump. As far as Trump is concerned there isn’t a lot of down side to letting them out. Those people who are going to be upset about it are probably even more upset with him for instigating them in the first place, so no real difference there. I suppose there is the danger that someone he releases will go on to commit a serious crime and make the news, but that is long range thinking that is for the most part beyond Trump’s capabilities. On the good side for him, is that it fits his primary narrative that the 2020 election was stolen, that the protest was a peaceful reaction against that injustice and that the only reason he or anyone else is being prosecuted for it is that the deep state is after those who want to bring them down. Based on this narrative he can’t very well leave these patriot victims of politically motivated prosecution behind bars. As far as trying to sell pardons, this isn’t some fat cat who swindled millions of dollars and so wants his troubles with the SEC taken care of, these guys generally can’t pull a lot of financial resources together so trying to shake them down is only going to yield Trump’s equivalent of pocket change. At the same time if word got out it might hurt with his larger base who has a much larger pile of cash from which to grift. So I think he will pardon them within days of taking office. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/99 "2024-12-02T23:41:09Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > As far as Trump is concerned there isn’t a lot of down side to letting them out. What is life like after getting a pardon? I would imagine the pardon does not make people whole in all the other ways that their lives have changed since getting thrown in jail. Do these folks get their jobs back? Do they get their “reputations” back (such as they were before J6)? Do they get custody of their kids back? The way I picture it, a pardoned person going to job interviews is going to get a whole lot of “don’t call us, we’ll call you” and I’m pretty sure Trump doesn’t care one bit about that. I wonder how a whole bunch of Americans will respond when they are essentially exiled from what their lives used to be. And I wonder what these folks will do when the only lesson they have been taught from all of this is that violence against the government is okay. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/100 "2024-12-02T23:48:14Z")
I guess the one caveat that I could see Trump doing purely out of spite is to leave in jail all those whose defense was essentially I was fooled by Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613.md?page=6)