# He has to free the J6ers, right?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 22, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613 "2024-11-22T15:11:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/141 "2024-12-10T23:32:43Z")

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The three motivators of Trump that explain all of his actions: greed, ego, and spite, and I think that greed is really a subset of ego, since like most of the extremely wealthy, money for him is less about being able to buy things to make you happy as it is a way to keep score.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/142 "2024-12-12T23:38:54Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I think that greed is really a subset of ego, since like most of the extremely wealthy, money for him is less about being able to buy things to make you happy as it is a way to keep score.

Which would explain why he slaps back so hard at anyone who suggests that he is not, in fact, as wealthy as he claims to be.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/143 "2025-01-21T04:38:12Z")

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He did of course, despite what our expert prognosticators in this thread claimed.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/144 "2025-01-21T04:42:54Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Zoobi](#):
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> He did of course, despite what our expert prognosticators in this thread claimed.

I’ve noticed several of your posts in P&E threads seem more focused on scoring off other posters whom you perceive as having gotten their predictions of outcomes wrong. As we all do at times.

We expect posters to make their cases with vigor, but dial back the passive aggressive personal attacks. To be precise: Knock it off.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/145 "2025-01-21T05:39:43Z")

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I’m only interested in where the freed fucks are going to perform their next “peaceful demonstration.” 🙄

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/146 "2025-01-21T14:37:12Z")

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They’ll be too busy posting for selfies with Fetterman.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/147 "2025-01-21T14:40:59Z")

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I was wrong here – he only pardoned most of the “hostages” (his words). He commuted the sentences of the more violent ones, cop killers, etc.

All of them are getting freed though, so I was probably close enough.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/148 "2025-01-21T15:10:31Z")

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Eyepatch has all of these terrorists in his contacts now, and all he needs is the call from some other asshole like Roger Stone. What’s the odds any of them will say, “Phew! I’m keeping my nose clean from here on out!”?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/149 "2025-01-21T16:24:57Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I was wrong here – he only pardoned most of the “hostages” (his words). He commuted the sentences of the more violent ones, cop killers, etc.
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> All of them are getting freed though, so I was probably close enough.

Hey, he’s gotta give them some incentive for doing it again.

“You’ll get your full pardon for J6 the next time you storm Congress after they’ve pissed me off!”

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/150 "2025-01-23T15:14:39Z")

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It would be fun if a rumor could be floated wherein he’s considering posthumously pardoning Timothy McVeigh.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/151 "2025-01-23T15:40:32Z")

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Easily denied. He would have nothing to gain from doing that.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/152 "2025-01-30T21:13:47Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Query- why didnt trump pardon them all on January 19, 2021?

Because he wanted their friends and family desperate to get him back into office.

I admit to being surprised that he pardoned all of them. I don’t think he really understood what he was signing. Scribbling out signatures at his little desk is his favorite theater piece. In an interview a couple days later, confronted with the question of whether those who attacked police officers should have been pardoned, he said “Well, we’ll look into it.” He didn’t seem to comprehend that he had already pardoned them.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/153 "2025-01-30T21:19:04Z")

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It was okay to pardon the worst because something Portland. I’m starting to hate this guy.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-has-to-free-the-j6ers-right/1010613/154 "2025-01-31T06:06:30Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> I admit to being surprised that he pardoned all of them. I don’t think he really understood what he was signing.

Apparently, there were discussions about who to pardon but they were taking too long and I imagine were boring for Trump.

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> \* But as Trump’s team wrestled with the issue, and planned a shock-and-awe batch of executive orders Day 1, “Trump just said: 'F -k it: Release ‘em all,’” an adviser familiar with the discussions said.

[“F–k it: Release 'em all”: Why Trump embraced broad Jan. 6 pardons](https://www.axios.com/2025/01/22/trump-pardons-jan6-clemency)

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