# He Hate Me 2: Electric Boogaloo! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 25, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457 "2018-01-25T16:57:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/1 "2018-01-25T16:57:44Z")
[Vince McMahon](https://www.si.com/wrestling/2018/01/25/wwe-football-league-xfl-vince-mcmahon) is announcing the start of a brand new football league today. Again. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/2 "2018-01-25T17:00:40Z")
Oh goody, we need yet another failed minor league team in Orlando. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/3 "2018-01-25T18:26:28Z")
I can’t wait to hear why Vince thinks it will work this time around. The XFL was not a terrible idea, just poorly executed. If the focus is still going to be extreme football, it might do even worse now than it did 17 years ago. It would be interesting if they could make a ridiculous enough offer to land an established NFL star, like Drew Brees (he’s a free agent). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/4 "2018-01-25T18:35:45Z")
I wonder if prior speculation was true: He signs up kids out of college that don’t have agents, he becomes their agent and when this rerun of an idea falls on its face and the NFL takes a look at a few of these fresh faces McMahon is in the money. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/5 "2018-01-25T18:54:32Z")
I’d love if the XFL was the developmental/minor league of the NFL. Get guys to learn pro ball instead of trying to go right from college ball to pro, which is often a disaster. QBs and OL players especially need this. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/6 "2018-01-25T19:52:43Z")
for some reason vince hates college football and especially the ncaa ? did he try for something and get turned down,? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/7 "2018-01-25T20:16:56Z")
Maybe he got a lesson from Donald Trump, the USFL owner who “won” his antitrust case against the NFL, was awarded $3, and has taken vengeance on them when possible since? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/8 "2018-01-25T21:42:25Z")
[Just posted in Sports Illustrated:](https://www.si.com/wrestling/2018/01/25/wwe-football-league-xfl-vince-mcmahon) It’s going to be streamlined, no crossovers with the WWE, nobody with a conviction(not even a DWI)…and it’s going to be Conservative. Everybody will stand for the National Anthem. The league will launch in 2020 with eight teams of 40-man rosters playing a 10-game schedule. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/9 "2018-01-25T22:02:10Z")
Craziest thing: > [@](#): > > The league will begin play in “late January or early February” of 2020 and run through the spring. So it’s going to compete with both the NFL Playoffs and March Madness? And if they’re playing in any northern cities, so one will want to go? Why not make it a summer league? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/10 "2018-01-26T00:47:27Z")
Ain’t no way this league is going to survive with the ban on public criminals. They’re just too damn many of em in sports and I don’t think the demand for players is high enough to fill the holes. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/11 "2018-01-26T06:39:22Z")
I can’t wait to see the contracts these newbies will have to sign. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/14 "2018-01-26T15:25:00Z")
I posted this on the WWE thread, before the SI announcement. > [@](#): > > I bet Vince came up with a way to script football. It will be like 80’s Rollerderby on ESPN. > > There will be face teams and heel teams. Head coaches and team owners will be faces and heels, but their alignments may be different from the team’s. Heel players will cheat while the refs have their heads turned, and there will be no instant replay. QBs will have fabulous hair. Bodyslams, spears, and clotheslines will be allowed for tackles. Kickers will be spoiled girlymen brought in via palanquin. Forward passes will be bounced around Harlem Globetrotter style. Defensive linemen will explode through gangs of blockers like Big Show vs midgets. Heels will ambush faces as they go to their locker room and videos of those beatdowns will be shown during halftime. Masks will be legal so long as they match team colors. The attacked faces will return in the 4th quarter limping and push off medics, then pull off Hail Mary plays. Cheerleaders will have their own angles and reality shows. There will be teams from other planets. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/15 "2018-01-26T15:32:30Z")
Yeah…no. No city will sign on with this. “Sooo-You are saying that our team will not be allowed to win this year, and that they must throw some games according to a script? Would you mind handing us that script? Now, would you mind bending over?” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/16 "2018-01-26T15:36:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > it’s going to be Conservative. That also means the cheerleaders’ outfits are going to be comparatively chaste this time. Yeah, good luck, Vince. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/17 "2018-01-26T15:53:42Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That also means the cheerleaders’ outfits are going to be comparatively chaste this time. > > Yeah, good luck, Vince. According to him there aren’t going to be any cheerleaders. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/18 "2018-01-26T16:24:54Z")
There will be less rules, but it will also somehow be safer. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/19 "2018-01-26T18:38:53Z")
I would only start paying attention to this venture if McMahon’s league managed to draft some high-profile college stars and/or successfully raided the NFL for prime talent.\* If they don’t do this, the new XFL will just be a minor league with a level of play just below that of the Arena Football League that will be lucky to last a full season. \*Of course, the WFL and the USFL did this and still folded after a few seasons. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/20 "2018-01-26T19:03:03Z")
A league of B-level, god luvin’, conservative players? Tim Tebow is cursing his rotten luck that he was a few years too early. Or he would be if he cursed. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/21 "2018-01-26T19:25:52Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > There will be less rules, but it will also somehow be safer. Just to play devil’s advocate, less rules doesn’t necessarily mean less safe. They could, for example, allow O-lineman to hold…that wouldn’t decrease safety any. They could allow a DB to hand-check beyond 5-yards and it wouldn’t be too terribly less safe than it is now. Don’t let the DB all-out blast the dude or tackle, but doing a rub or a check 10 yards down the field isn’t so bad. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457/22 "2018-01-26T20:37:16Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I posted this on the WWE thread, before the SI announcement. When you say “Rollerderby,” do you mean _RollerGames_? Earlier incarnations of Roller Derby (both what I call the “Bay Bombers” version and the “LA T-Birds” version) didn’t really have “face teams” and “heel teams” the way RollerGames did. But there’s no way Vince would get away with a rigged league like that - even his World Bodybuilding Federation was on the up-and-up. Besides, it’s not that easy to rig a football game and still make it exciting; if everything depends on a last-second Pick Six, you’d better hope that the defensive player doesn’t bobble the catch. I still think the whole thing is just a front for Vince to sign players whom he thinks might do well in the NFL to Alpha Entertainment. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the league never plays a game. It wouldn’t be the first time it happened; I saw a 1959 episode of _What’s My Line?_ that had the commissioner of the Continental Baseball League, scheduled to start in 1961 and promising teams in New York and Miami, but the whole thing collapsed when Major League Baseball granted four new expansions (the Mets, Angels, Astros, and what are now the Rangers). [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-2-electric-boogaloo/807457.md?page=2)