# He Hate Me FF keeper league - Year 10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 14, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142 "2012-06-14T14:47:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/21 "2012-06-19T17:31:08Z")
First trade of the (off-)season! I get picks 4-8, 8-8 and 11-7 from **Munch**. He gets picks, 4-1, 8-1 and 16-1 from me. I am naturally quite happy to trade back further in rounds 4 and 8, if anyone wants to move up in those rounds. Cross-posted this to the league page so Dave will see it (not least since he has the last pick in those rounds). ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/22 "2012-06-19T17:56:44Z")
I’m still looking for an additional 3rd round pick (preferably near the back). Pick 2-8 is up for grabs. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/23 "2012-06-28T17:06:03Z")
ViQueens here; I’m in for another year of pain and misery that is fantasy football. I ended up 7-7; faded down the stretch losing the last two regular season games to miss out on a playoff spot. I basically hate my entire roster, so I might not have any keepers. Gimme a few weeks to think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/24 "2012-06-28T17:33:07Z")
I’m interested in dealing the rights to any of my keepers, for a price. Primarily I’m looking to move up in the first round. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/25 "2012-06-28T19:07:49Z")
Wilson and I have come to a trade agreement: Off Constantly gives 4th and Nineteen: 1-7 4-1 8-1 4th and Nineteen gives Off Constantly: 1-12 3-12 6-3 ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/26 "2012-08-01T05:50:01Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’m interested in dealing the rights to any of my keepers, for a price. Primarily I’m looking to move up in the first round. I am dangling 1.2 for the right price. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/27 "2012-08-01T14:36:13Z")
Don’t need to move up _that_ much - unless you’re prepared to move to the back of the round in exchange for the rights to V-Jax (he’d cost you a 4th) or Wes Welker (3rd)? ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/28 "2012-08-01T15:05:16Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Don’t need to move up _that_ much - unless you’re prepared to move to the back of the round in exchange for the rights to V-Jax (he’d cost you a 4th) or Wes Welker (3rd)? Probably not. I liek both players, but not at those draft positions. Welker had career numbers last year for yds & TDs. I don;t think he busts, but expect a regression to the mean for him. Only 3 WR went in 1st 2 rounds last year, so I expect I can grab a WR with higher upside at 3.2. V-Jax is a stud, but though I am a TB homer, catching balls from Freeman in a run first offense is a little different from catching balls from Rivers in SD. I would make teh swap for the rights to the beast in 8, though. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/29 "2012-08-02T10:57:57Z")
I’ll keep Jordy Nelson in the 8th. Nothing else worked last season, so that’s it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/30 "2012-08-02T14:25:29Z")
Still looking to move back in rounds 4 and 8. Need to move up in odd-numbered rounds other than 3. > [@Spiritus too](#): > > Probably not. I liek both players, but not at those draft positions. Welker had career numbers last year for yds & TDs. I don;t think he busts, but expect a regression to the mean for him. Only 3 WR went in 1st 2 rounds last year, so I expect I can grab a WR with higher upside at 3.2. V-Jax is a stud, but though I am a TB homer, catching balls from Freeman in a run first offense is a little different from catching balls from Rivers in SD. > > I would make teh swap for the rights to the beast in 8, though. I thought about that for a second but Beast Mode is going 29th overall according to FF Toolbox, and I get to keep him for the 108th pick. So I’d effectively be giving up 69 spots there in exchange for 12 spots in the first round. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/31 "2012-08-02T17:46:52Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Still looking to move back in rounds 4 and 8. Need to move up in odd-numbered rounds other than 3. > > I thought about that for a second but Beast Mode is going 29th overall according to FF Toolbox, and I get to keep him for the 108th pick. So I’d effectively be giving up 69 spots there in exchange for 12 spots in the first round. True. Now there is a big difference between 1.2 and 1.14, but I agree that a straight trade would be a bit unbalanced in my favor. If you want to consider “additional considerations” let take it to email. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/32 "2012-08-03T05:05:35Z")
Just getting my potential keepers posted for the record. The rounds listed are those that I drafted them in. 5th Brandon Lloyd 6th Roy Helu 9th Sam Bradford 10th Jared Cook 11th Plaxico Burress 14th Jake Locker 15th Dallas 16th Robbie Gould I’m pretty sure I’m keeping Locker in the 12th. Maybe Helu in the 4th or Lloyd in 3rd if things look really strong in the preseason for them. Trades obviously will be entertained. If anyone wants to talk about juggling their 12th round picks, particularly Dave or Spiritus let me know, though since I’m drafting 5th to last in that round it’s not a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/33 "2012-08-09T14:34:46Z")
Dave and Jules, if you’re reading this, I’m still looking to trade back in rounds 4 and 8 (8th pick in each). Mundi, I offered you a trade via PM. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/34 "2012-08-09T18:53:21Z")
I’m keeping Nelson in the 8th, so it doesn’t make sense for me to move up in that round. Sorry! ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/35 "2012-08-10T18:12:35Z")
My potential keepers, I think: Brandon Marshall - 1st Round --\> Ummmm, no. Ryan Grant - 2nd Round --\> Ummmm, hell no. Mike Tolbert - 3rd Round – \> Not a chance. Vincent Jackson - 4th Round --\> OOPS, traded him to RNATB who is keeping him. Green Bay Defense - 5th round --\> That’s not going to happen. Percy Harvin - 5th Round --\> At least I got something back from RNATB. Yes. Darren McFadden - 6th Round --\> Yes please! Ryan Fitzpatrick - 7th Round --\> I can get him later if I want him, which I don’t. Marshawn Lynch - 8th Round --\> See Vincent Jackson and A bunch of garbage. I’m on the fence with Percy, but he has a 4.12 ADP, and talent goes quick in this league with keepers, so I’ll use my fifth on him. McFadden is still a deal in the 6th, but dammit I want him to be healthy. And if he can’t, I want his douchebag coaches to say so instead of lying through their teeth. Barring injury or holdouts, I’ll be keeping: **Percy Harvin** with pick 5.11 **Darren McFadden** with pick 6.11 And my god it’s depressing to see the list of winners and, after 9 fucking years, not being on that list. Congrats RNATB, I’m glad I contributed to your win last year. Maybe I’ll count that as a win for me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/36 "2012-08-11T22:59:26Z")
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but I kept Harvin [each of the last two seasons](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14098935&postcount=1), so I don’t think you can keep him. However, I hereby appoint you assistant GM of Nine Inch Neils. Considering all the talent I more or less handed you in the Dynasty League, I probably shouldn’t feel that bad. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/37 "2012-08-12T06:35:11Z")
**trade announcement** _Spiritus_ =\> _RNATB_ 4-13 5-2 6-13 8-13 9-2 _RNATB_ =\> _Spiritus_ 4-8 5-14 6-1 8-8 9-14 Pick **1.2** is still on the market, if anyone is interested. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/38 "2012-08-12T20:35:35Z")
For Ellis’ benefit (and my own, in case I make any more trades)… I now have the following picks (bolded the ones I didn’t start out with): 1-14 2-1 3-14 **4-13** **5-2** **6-13** **8-13** **9-2** 10-1 **11-7** 11-14 12-1 13-14 14-1 15-14 (traded 16th rounder to **Munch** ) I am still looking to trade up in the first round. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/39 "2012-08-17T04:01:21Z")
Somebody tell Omni he forgot to sign up for the league. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142/40 "2012-08-17T10:10:02Z")
So what’s the easiest way to figure out what round I could keep potential keepers in? At the moment it’s a serious PITA trying to piece stuff together. I’m leaning towards keeping Stafford (5rd last year, keep in 3rd), Toby Gerhart (keep in 13th) and possibly Jabar Gaffney if I can figure out where he was drafted last year… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142.md?page=3)